Yeah... no. wrote:
John Utah wrote:
Nope.
Defend yourself, but let law enforcement enforce the laws. That's the way our society is set up.
You are evidence of our decaying society.
Everyone is freakin' Rambo. That's evidence of decaying society. Everyone is a cop wannabee, confronting because big man has a gun so he can do whatever he wants, talk crap, be big rollin' coal dude society hater.
OP, complain to the mayor's office, not to the police themselves. Hold these town employees responsible for their actions (or lack thereof).
Yeah... no. wrote:
John Utah wrote:
Nope.
Defend yourself, but let law enforcement enforce the laws. That's the way our society is set up.
You are evidence of our decaying society.
Just obey the law and let the police do their job. That's all you need to worry about, chief.
Learn the Law wrote:
You brandished your weapon. You were in the wrong and lucky you didn't get charged.
Most states have open carry. You can walk around holding a weapon all day. Is it smart? No. Legal? Yes.
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Learn the Law wrote:
You brandished your weapon. You were in the wrong and lucky you didn't get charged.
Most states have open carry. You can walk around holding a weapon all day. Is it smart? No. Legal? Yes.
Yes, open carry in my state (but I wouldn't try to suggest that is why he saw my gun).
I know this is a divisive issue; I don't expect everyone to jump on my bandwagon. I do take issue with the "Rambo" comments, as well as the "let the police do their job" comments. If we had enough police to truly stop crime, we wouldn't have money for much else. Besides, why do we have 911? Neighborhood Watch?
Bottom line: our city is crumbling, our local schools are failing, and I will be damned if I see a known burglar just ride by me and I say to myself "the police will probably get him on their own, eventually". That is the problem with our society: too many keyboard warriors, but no one to confront the bad guys when they have the chance.
Dead Serious wrote:
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Most states have open carry. You can walk around holding a weapon all day. Is it smart? No. Legal? Yes.
Yes, open carry in my state (but I wouldn't try to suggest that is why he saw my gun).
I know this is a divisive issue; I don't expect everyone to jump on my bandwagon. I do take issue with the "Rambo" comments, as well as the "let the police do their job" comments. If we had enough police to truly stop crime, we wouldn't have money for much else. Besides, why do we have 911? Neighborhood Watch?
Bottom line: our city is crumbling, our local schools are failing, and I will be damned if I see a known burglar just ride by me and I say to myself "the police will probably get him on their own, eventually". That is the problem with our society: too many keyboard warriors, but no one to confront the bad guys when they have the chance.
I understand your frustration with having to live amongst sub-humans, however, you cannot engage in law enforcement activities in that manner, especially if we're talking about theft and not assault, and not even theft of your property. Society has empowered law enforcement to enforce laws. That's how it works. Law and order. You think there is disorder now? What if everyone decided to enforce laws as they individually saw fit? There are a million good reasons why you should not do what you did. Call the police, take a photo of the dude. That's it. Move to a better place. My city is not crumbling and my local schools are not falling apart.
Dead Serious wrote:
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Most states have open carry. You can walk around holding a weapon all day. Is it smart? No. Legal? Yes.
Yes, open carry in my state (but I wouldn't try to suggest that is why he saw my gun).
I know this is a divisive issue; I don't expect everyone to jump on my bandwagon. I do take issue with the "Rambo" comments, as well as the "let the police do their job" comments. If we had enough police to truly stop crime, we wouldn't have money for much else. Besides, why do we have 911? Neighborhood Watch?
Bottom line: our city is crumbling, our local schools are failing, and I will be damned if I see a known burglar just ride by me and I say to myself "the police will probably get him on their own, eventually". That is the problem with our society: too many keyboard warriors, but no one to confront the bad guys when they have the chance.
Would you have confronted him without your safety blanket gun on your person?
Nice job a$$hole, you deprived the police of an opportunity to shoot someone. Hope your proud of yourself.
Dead Serious wrote:
back woods wrote:
Threatening to shoot a guy is a far more serious crime than stealing a bike. You arr far more of a threat to the neighborhood than he is.
If you pull a gun, it will be interpreted as a death threat by a lot of people, and some will defend themselves accordingly.
We agree on this. I did not threaten him with a gun because he stole a bike. I showed him my gun because he threatened me and continued to walk towards me after I told him to stop and wait for the police.
Had he - at that point - decided to make it a life and death conflict... well, I am glad we didn't have to find out.
You brandished your weapon, which is a crime. Even a police officer can only use their firearm if their own life or the life/lives of civilians are being threatened with deadly force. This is why police officers carry OC spray, tasers, and batons. The level of force an officer uses can’t exceed the level of force used by the subject they are arresting or confronting. It is the duty of the civilian to retreat from the situation and to report the incident to the police and let them do THEIR job. The only time a civilian can use a firearm against another person is if that person is an imminent threat to the civilian’s life.
If you want to be a law enforcement officer, go apply with your local department. If not, keep your distance and call 911.
You're my hero wrote:
If you want to be a cop then go enroll at the academy.
Otherwise just behave like a responsible citizen and let the police do their job.
Looks to me like they didn't do their job. Assclown
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Happens literally all the time wrote:
Yes, but it would be TL,DR.
Maybe if you cower in fear in your basement, you've never seen the Real World.
I live in California where there are no basements. I'm against assault weapons but I'm fine with with people owning handguns or carrying them so I don't know why you feel the need to insult me. Where is this Real World that I've never seen?
"Assault weapons" don't exist. More people are killed by handguns than any other gun. You are a fool.
lordy lord tracey wrote:
Dead Serious wrote:
Yes, open carry in my state (but I wouldn't try to suggest that is why he saw my gun).
I know this is a divisive issue; I don't expect everyone to jump on my bandwagon. I do take issue with the "Rambo" comments, as well as the "let the police do their job" comments. If we had enough police to truly stop crime, we wouldn't have money for much else. Besides, why do we have 911? Neighborhood Watch?
Bottom line: our city is crumbling, our local schools are failing, and I will be damned if I see a known burglar just ride by me and I say to myself "the police will probably get him on their own, eventually". That is the problem with our society: too many keyboard warriors, but no one to confront the bad guys when they have the chance.
Would you have confronted him without your safety blanket gun on your person?
My gun is the reason I DIDN'T physically engage him. I didn't want it to fall out.
You’re wrong wrote:
Dead Serious wrote:
We agree on this. I did not threaten him with a gun because he stole a bike. I showed him my gun because he threatened me and continued to walk towards me after I told him to stop and wait for the police.
Had he - at that point - decided to make it a life and death conflict... well, I am glad we didn't have to find out.
You brandished your weapon, which is a crime. Even a police officer can only use their firearm if their own life or the life/lives of civilians are being threatened with deadly force. This is why police officers carry OC spray, tasers, and batons. The level of force an officer uses can’t exceed the level of force used by the subject they are arresting or confronting. It is the duty of the civilian to retreat from the situation and to report the incident to the police and let them do THEIR job. The only time a civilian can use a firearm against another person is if that person is an imminent threat to the civilian’s life.
If you want to be a law enforcement officer, go apply with your local department. If not, keep your distance and call 911.
Apparently, actual law enforcement disagrees with your position. (However, I will concede that as inept as this officer was, maybe I SHOULD be in jail right now, and this officer was just too lazy to do the paperwork.)
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Learn the Law wrote:
You brandished your weapon. You were in the wrong and lucky you didn't get charged.
Most states have open carry. You can walk around holding a weapon all day. Is it smart? No. Legal? Yes.
The minute you actively "show" that weapon, by indicating it or taking it out, you are threatening someone. If you don't understand that, you have no business carrying a weapon.
Dead Serious wrote:
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Most states have open carry. You can walk around holding a weapon all day. Is it smart? No. Legal? Yes.
Yes, open carry in my state (but I wouldn't try to suggest that is why he saw my gun).
I know this is a divisive issue; I don't expect everyone to jump on my bandwagon. I do take issue with the "Rambo" comments, as well as the "let the police do their job" comments. If we had enough police to truly stop crime, we wouldn't have money for much else. Besides, why do we have 911? Neighborhood Watch?
Bottom line: our city is crumbling, our local schools are failing, and I will be damned if I see a known burglar just ride by me and I say to myself "the police will probably get him on their own, eventually". That is the problem with our society: too many keyboard warriors, but no one to confront the bad guys when they have the chance.
A guy who shows his gun to someone he thinks is a bike thief is a coward more than a Rambo type. People like you are a cancer and a danger to others.
Dead Serious wrote:
lordy lord tracey wrote:
Would you have confronted him without your safety blanket gun on your person?
My gun is the reason I DIDN'T physically engage him. I didn't want it to fall out.
That's not what was asked.
There is a fair chance that the guy is not the bike thief. If you were the police, you might arrest him, but there is a legal process that would assess his guilt, not an on-the-spot determination in any case.
So lets say the dude is not the bike thief. Maybe you think all black people or homeless people, etc. look alike. Or the photos that you saw of the suspect is of him, but not of the actual thief.
So now, you'd stopped the guy for apparently no reason, and harassed him, and brandished a weapon. If the guy has a gun, and you are in a stand-your-ground state, wouldn't he be within his rights to kill you because he is legitimate fear of his life?
Learn the Law wrote:
You brandished your weapon. You were in the wrong and lucky you didn't get charged.
But if he was black the cop coulda shot him for ya'. But something Nike today.
reading comprehension is for special snowflakes wrote:
Dead Serious wrote:
My gun is the reason I DIDN'T physically engage him. I didn't want it to fall out.
That's not what was asked.
Yes. And I believe anyone who has been burglarized in the past, especially while married and having seen your wife's stuff rifled through would feel the same way.
back woods wrote:
Dead Serious wrote:
Yes, open carry in my state (but I wouldn't try to suggest that is why he saw my gun).
I know this is a divisive issue; I don't expect everyone to jump on my bandwagon. I do take issue with the "Rambo" comments, as well as the "let the police do their job" comments. If we had enough police to truly stop crime, we wouldn't have money for much else. Besides, why do we have 911? Neighborhood Watch?
Bottom line: our city is crumbling, our local schools are failing, and I will be damned if I see a known burglar just ride by me and I say to myself "the police will probably get him on their own, eventually". That is the problem with our society: too many keyboard warriors, but no one to confront the bad guys when they have the chance.
A guy who shows his gun to someone he thinks is a bike thief is a coward more than a Rambo type. People like you are a cancer and a danger to others.
Bike thief and burglar. Not sure if I mentioned that or not.
And I didn't show my gun because he stole bikes. I showed my gun because he moved forward to confront me, and I did not want to engage in a physical confrontation when my gun could fall out.
I think you are going to hear what you want to hear. That is fine; I at least want to make sure you have the facts straight before you ignore them.