Runner's brought Nike into this world. Runner's should now abort Nike and help kill it.
So many better options out there for everybody.
Phil Knight and his ilk can stick their products where the sun don't shine.
Runner's brought Nike into this world. Runner's should now abort Nike and help kill it.
So many better options out there for everybody.
Phil Knight and his ilk can stick their products where the sun don't shine.
They seem to raise idiots and racists? Well, at least here anyway.
webby wrote:
guy with unsurprisingly offensive name wrote:
This isn't about police brutality Mr. Two Bits, it is about the rights of a private business to have it's employees do what they are legally and lawfully paid to do.
Nothing more, nothing less.
If they want to kneel, NOT one person is saying they can't. BUT you can't do it while being paid to do something other than you are there to do (lawfully).
ALL of you who don't understand this, are IDIOTS!
A few problems with your argument:
1. The private employer didn't tell the players that they couldn't kneel (until now). A small group of flag-waving "patriots" who do things like call black activists baboons are the ones who didn't want players to kneel.
2. The employer operates under a collective bargaining agreement with the Players Union.
3. The private employer has a PUBLIC anti-trust exemption that makes it impossible for players to find other private professional football employers that don't force them to stand at attention as a pledge of loyalty to the state on national television each week.
There is absolutely NO problems with my argument.
1. It doesn't matter if a bird pooped on a donkey is what caused the owners to not allow it. IT IS THEIR CHOICE.
2. In the collective bargaining agreement, there is NOTHING that states that the players shouldn't or should stand for the anthem. So, this has nothing to do with the current issue (yet).
3. Not sure what this has to do with it. This is something the protects the NFL, not hurts them.
Again, the players are there to do what they are supposed to do (LAWFULLY).
Doing protests while working for a PRIVATE company, ISN'T lawfully protected. PERIOD. The NFL players are at-will workers and can leave anytime and not working for the government.
The players may strike or the owners may lock them out for it, but that has nothing to do with their LEGAL right to kneel.
non O wrote:
asian r reallly hot wrote:
This isn't about police brutality Mr. Two Bits, it is about the rights of a private business to have it's employees do what they are legally and lawfully paid to do.
Nothing more, nothing less.
If they want to kneel, NOT one person is saying they can't. BUT you can't do it while being paid to do something other than you are there to do (lawfully).
ALL of you who don't understand this, are IDIOTS!
I thought football players were paid to play football?
And you would be WRONG. They have MANY functions, one of which is the actual playing of the game. But certain charity functions, public appearances, workout and training obligations, drug and steroid obligations, actually being there a certain time before the game, participate in pregame drills, interview requirements etc.
They are not allowed to do whatever they want as long as they play on Sunday.
Pookie Washington wrote:
Trump and his White right wing supporters seem to be very disingenuous. I truly don't believe they really think the NFL players are disrespecting the flag. They are racist liars. The racist right just don't like to see Black athletes who make more in a day than they do in a year complain about injustice and brutality committed by Whites against Blacks.
I have a question....be honest.
If the NFL players took a knee during the anthem to protest the unfair and despicable treatment of veterans.....would White AmeriKKKa be mad?
Yes, you racist idiot.
Pookie Washington wrote:
Trump and his White right wing supporters seem to be very disingenuous. I truly don't believe they really think the NFL players are disrespecting the flag. They are racist liars. The racist right just don't like to see Black athletes who make more in a day than they do in a year complain about injustice and brutality committed by Whites against Blacks.
I have a question....be honest.
If the NFL players took a knee during the anthem to protest the unfair and despicable treatment of veterans.....would White AmeriKKKa be mad?
Ok, I'll be honest... you're an absolute imbecile. Here's your "racist" Trump... "I wanna put that money back into Harlem"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NStoHua4xp0The liberals in charge are using 'white cop kills another unarmed black person" as a rally cry to excite their base. While I totally agree unjustified shooting of unarmed people is beyond horrible, statistics show clearly it isn't NEARLY as bad as the liberal media and its leaders have made it out to be. Conservatives make up close to half of the country's population. You guys ignore those like Kap, the view, and most of Hollywood and a lot them will become irrelevant.
I'm not going to get in the p!ssing contest of whether or not the President is racist, but I will say that posting a clip of someone saying or doing nice things for another race does not squash the thought that they are racist.
Pookie Washington wrote:
Trump and his White right wing supporters seem to be very disingenuous. I truly don't believe they really think the NFL players are disrespecting the flag. They are racist liars. The racist right just don't like to see Black athletes who make more in a day than they do in a year complain about injustice and brutality committed by Whites against Blacks.
I have a question....be honest.
If the NFL players took a knee during the anthem to protest the unfair and despicable treatment of veterans.....would White AmeriKKKa be mad?
No, they wouldn't. If there was an issue that the overwhelming majority of people agreed was a real problem, then people wouldn't be tied in knots over the method of protest.
I myself don't get sidetracked on the "should they or shouldn't they kneel" question. I'm more interested in talking about the presumed reason why they are kneeling. As far as I can tell, they are protesting because they think there is a widespread problem of police brutality that is motivated by racism. At least half the country does NOT think there is a widespread problem of police brutality caused by racism. There is not a sufficient consensus for the STARTING POINT of the NFL protest, and so that is why it is getting sidetracked by arguing over the appropriateness of the protest method. And the protest itself is not accomplishing anything (other than extending Kapernick's 15 minutes).
The prevailing perception in the country is that discrimination caused by racism has reached such minimal levels, that there is nothing much left to be done about it. The media likes to push the narrative that racism is still a huge problem, but most people, in their own lives and world, know that it's not a big deal. Of course there are still disparities between different groups of people. But everyone knows these disparities have more to do with economic class and sub-culture than race.
The media push the narrative of racism by highlighting the police incidents that crop up hear and there. Some of these are instances of excessive police force, and the offending police officers are usually dealt with. In other situations, the force is justified once all the facts of the situations are known. So people look at that and ask "what exactly are we supposed to do differently?" Academics like to point out "micro-aggressions" as proof that racism is a problem. But if you have to attach "micro" to the beginning of your problem, you're kind of proving it's not a big problem. The bottom line is that people in their real lives, instinctively know that the racism problem belongs to the past. The freedom riders, Rosa Parks, MLK, Malcom X, all had their place and were appropriate for the circumstances of their day. The country has changed. We've integrated and intermarried. We've had a black president. That battle is over.
The real response of middle-America to the NFL protests is "why are they kneeling?" This is not because middle-America is still racist, it is precisely because racism is no longer a big problem in middle America.
Lol how can people say trump isnt racist. He is and was fireing up the Obama is kenian thing. Americans are stupid and dangerous
Pookie Washington wrote:
The truth hurts wrote:
Ok, I'll be honest... you're an absolute imbecile. Here's your "racist" Trump... "I wanna put that money back into Harlem"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NStoHua4xp0Wow....so that clip proves Trump is not a racist? You can't be that phucking stupid. Your daddy should have shot his load in your mother's stinking azz.
Hahahaha.
Pookie, I disagree with you on this subject, but I love your energy.
Pookie Washington wrote:
Wow....so that clip proves Trump is not a racist? You can't be that phucking stupid. Your daddy should have shot his load in your mother's stinking azz.
I should have shot my load all over your skankazz mom's face. I'm disappointed, son.
Is this really you Obama?
asian r reallly hot wrote:
non O wrote:
I thought football players were paid to play football?
And you would be WRONG. They have MANY functions, one of which is the actual playing of the game. But certain charity functions, public appearances, workout and training obligations, drug and steroid obligations, actually being there a certain time before the game, participate in pregame drills, interview requirements etc.
They are not allowed to do whatever they want as long as they play on Sunday.
And I think we can safely assume that Kaepernick met all of those expectations as a 49er. I don't remember him being fined by the NFL or the 49ers.
What if Tom Brady has to pee right before kickoff and misses the anthem. Should he be penalized?
Which corporations, besides the NFL, require employees to stand for the anthem once a week as part of their job description?
I wonder what percentage of these entitled snowflake liberal millennials riding around on the motorized scooters actually own a home and have and cash saved?
My guess is it is extremely low.
In time their brains will start to function properly.
This is interesting. I coach a very well known black male athlete. He has stated to me and others that "he has never had a bad experience with a cop", and he wonders why Kaepernick or others hasn't made a point to address the inner-city murder that is common.
He see's the media as a massive player in the current societal division, and he thinks Obama was completely full of sh!t.
I haven't bought a pair of Nike shoes for a few years. I think I will now. The whole movement isn't about disrespecting the military. It's about how police officers can kill unarmed men (almost always of color) and getting away with murder.
Huapango wrote:
It's about how police officers can kill unarmed men (almost always of color)
Thanks for the lie.
Pookie Washington wrote:
celery wrote:
No, they wouldn't. If there was an issue that the overwhelming majority of people agreed was a real problem, then people wouldn't be tied in knots over the method of protest.
I myself don't get sidetracked on the "should they or shouldn't they kneel" question. I'm more interested in talking about the presumed reason why they are kneeling. As far as I can tell, they are protesting because they think there is a widespread problem of police brutality that is motivated by racism. At least half the country does NOT think there is a widespread problem of police brutality caused by racism. There is not a sufficient consensus for the STARTING POINT of the NFL protest, and so that is why it is getting sidetracked by arguing over the appropriateness of the protest method. And the protest itself is not accomplishing anything (other than extending Kapernick's 15 minutes).
The prevailing perception in the country is that discrimination caused by racism has reached such minimal levels, that there is nothing much left to be done about it. The media likes to push the narrative that racism is still a huge problem, but most people, in their own lives and world, know that it's not a big deal. Of course there are still disparities between different groups of people. But everyone knows these disparities have more to do with economic class and sub-culture than race.
The media push the narrative of racism by highlighting the police incidents that crop up hear and there. Some of these are instances of excessive police force, and the offending police officers are usually dealt with. In other situations, the force is justified once all the facts of the situations are known. So people look at that and ask "what exactly are we supposed to do differently?" Academics like to point out "micro-aggressions" as proof that racism is a problem. But if you have to attach "micro" to the beginning of your problem, you're kind of proving it's not a big problem. The bottom line is that people in their real lives, instinctively know that the racism problem belongs to the past. The freedom riders, Rosa Parks, MLK, Malcom X, all had their place and were appropriate for the circumstances of their day. The country has changed. We've integrated and intermarried. We've had a black president. That battle is over.
The real response of middle-America to the NFL protests is "why are they kneeling?" This is not because middle-America is still racist, it is precisely because racism is no longer a big problem in middle America.
So your point is racism is basically a thing of the past? Really? It's just my imagination when cops stop me for silly shittt like an air freshener on my rear view mirror, snow on my licence plate, "fitting the description" and other ridiculous things White pigs come up with. There isn't a black male I know how hasn't had a bad experience with a cop. I can't begin to you the COUNTLESS times I've experienced racism in AMERIKKKA.
It's not your imagination that they are stopping you because you fit a description of a suspect they just heard about on their police radio. It is your imagination that they are stopping you because of racism.
Next time a cop stops you, ask him if he stopped you because he hates Blacks. If he says no, and gives another explanation for why he chose to stop you, then believe him. Or don't believe him and continue to be miserable as you obsess over what you imagine to be in the minds of all the people you hate.
Different perspective wrote:
This is interesting. I coach a very well known black male athlete. He has stated to me and others that "he has never had a bad experience with a cop", and he wonders why Kaepernick or others hasn't made a point to address the inner-city murder that is common.
He see's the media as a massive player in the current societal division, and he thinks Obama was completely full of sh!t.
It's almost as if the media are the enemy of the people.