Christian MF Coleman! 9.79! I never doubted you, bro. Never!

Looks like Christian's dad posted on this thread too.

MurderDub wrote:

Whatley wrote:

How is the sport dying?

It's never been anything close to football, we all get that.

Dying?

I'm exaggerating, Whatley. It's not dying, but it's also not growing and the sullenness of its fan base doesn't help. It's obvious as the day is long that 100% of the NFL, 90% of soccer and a good chunk of the NBA are doped to the gills. No one cares about that, but track athletes like Coleman are constantly berated and called dopers w/out having failed tests or even having any credible suspicion of doping linked to them. Idiots like sprintgeezer are a cancer to the sport. It's pathetic.

Missed 3 tests, got off on a technicality. No - not a whiff of suspicion.

That disgusting thing is now going to be allowed to compete?? This sport sucks!

Victor Conte (formerly Balco) - "the difference between 9.7 and 10-flat is drugs".

Armstronglivs wrote:

Victor Conte (formerly Balco) - "the difference between 4 minute mile and sub4 mile is drugs".

Looks like sprintgeezer was right again. Say what you will about the guy, but he knows his stuff.

HS kids can run 10.1ish, where is the common sense? A guy who has trained since HS can't break 10.00 at 26?

This....MUST BE DRUGS....is ridiculous.

Alll wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Victor Conte (formerly Balco) - "the difference between 4 minute mile and sub4 mile is drugs".

Conte said nothing of the kind - and neither did I. If you want to say something stupid, say it yourself.

MurderDub wrote:

No need to apologize wrote:

The sport is dying because of 50 plus years of doping and now the average Joe is staying away.

There has been 50+ years of doping in every major sport. Nobody is staying away from basketball, football, soccer, etc. The problem is not the doping, it's the fans.

The other major sports don't dwell on their athletes failing tests. They announce it and move on, MLB had an attitude like track and field and the fans have a similar attitude towards the sport as athletics.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Alll wrote:

Conte said nothing of the kind - and neither did I. If you want to say something stupid, say it yourself.

Everyone can say that say that under time X athletes use doping. You can say that this is: 10.00, 9.90, 10.28.

Whatley wrote:

HS kids can run 10.1ish, where is the common sense? A guy who has trained since HS can't break 10.00 at 26?

This....MUST BE DRUGS....is ridiculous.

Fast times + dodgy drug scandal = drugs.

Your a moran if you can't accept this.

trollism wrote:

Fast times + dodgy drug scandal = drugs.

Your a moran if you can't accept this.

Like so many "wow this guy is great" threads, this one hasn't aged well.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

9.79 (-0.3). FTW in Brussels

He’s lucky he is sponsored by Nike and is American. Otherwise, I doubt many people would believe he’s clean. So what’s the general verdict on Coleman?

Alll wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Conte said nothing of the kind - and neither did I. If you want to say something stupid, say it yourself.

Everyone can say that say that under time X athletes use doping. You can say that this is: 10.00, 9.90, 10.28.

Conte is not just anybody; for years he was a manufacturer and supplier of drugs to top athletes - sprinters especially. Marion Jones was one of his clients. He is saying that running 9.7 requires drugs and that without those drugs the athlete would otherwise likely be running in the region of 10-flat.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Alll wrote:

Everyone can say that say that under time X athletes use doping. You can say that this is: 10.00, 9.90, 10.28.

Conte is not just anybody; for years he was a manufacturer and supplier of drugs to top athletes - sprinters especially. Marion Jones was one of his clients. He is saying that running 9.7 requires drugs and that without those drugs the athlete would otherwise likely be running in the region of 10-flat.

So maybe every sprinter with sub 10.00 should get a life-ban. Saying things like "EVERY sub 10.00 100m. sprinters is doping" is as stupid as saying "EVERY sub 1:44 800m runner is doping" (128 athletes made sub 10.00 and 135 made sub 1:44).

Fortunately you aren't any important person in IAAF or WADA so your opinion doesn't mean to much...

Alll wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Conte is not just anybody; for years he was a manufacturer and supplier of drugs to top athletes - sprinters especially. Marion Jones was one of his clients. He is saying that running 9.7 requires drugs and that without those drugs the athlete would otherwise likely be running in the region of 10-flat.

So maybe every sprinter with sub 10.00 should get a life-ban. Saying things like "EVERY sub 10.00 100m. sprinters is doping" is as stupid as saying "EVERY sub 1:44 800m runner is doping" (128 athletes made sub 10.00 and 135 made sub 1:44).

Fortunately you aren't any important person in IAAF or WADA so your opinion doesn't mean to much...

It was Conte's opinion, not mine. Comprehension skills of a 2nd grader. And as a supplier of ped's to top athletes, Conte was of great interest to WADA and the IAAF. Since he served time, he now assists as a consultant to anti-dopers. But you obviously know nothing about any of that.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Alll wrote:

So maybe every sprinter with sub 10.00 should get a life-ban. Saying things like "EVERY sub 10.00 100m. sprinters is doping" is as stupid as saying "EVERY sub 1:44 800m runner is doping" (128 athletes made sub 10.00 and 135 made sub 1:44).

Fortunately you aren't any important person in IAAF or WADA so your opinion doesn't mean to much...

It was Conte's opinion, not mine. Comprehension skills of a 2nd grader. And as a supplier of ped's to top athletes, Conte was of great interest to WADA and the IAAF. Since he served time, he now assists as a consultant to anti-dopers. But you obviously know nothing about any of that.

Conte has a vested interest in spreading the belief that success can only happen through chemistry. He still sells sports supplements for a living!

He works as a consultant to anti doping agencies? Show us the proof. Conte loves to talk himself up. Those organizations haven't talked to him since he was the one under investigation.

Drainthefecesswamp wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

It was Conte's opinion, not mine. Comprehension skills of a 2nd grader. And as a supplier of ped's to top athletes, Conte was of great interest to WADA and the IAAF. Since he served time, he now assists as a consultant to anti-dopers. But you obviously know nothing about any of that.

Conte has a vested interest in spreading the belief that success can only happen through chemistry. He still sells sports supplements for a living!

He works as a consultant to anti doping agencies? Show us the proof. Conte loves to talk himself up. Those organizations haven't talked to him since he was the one under investigation.

From the Japan Times.

In December 2007, WADA asked Conte, who resides in California, to visit New York “all on their dime,” he said, for a meeting. For 3½ hours, Conte said he spoke to Pound, the then-WADA president, with a lawyer present at the meeting.

The lawyer “scribed every single word that I said,” Conte told The Japan Times in a recent phone interview.

(Pound later said that Conte "certainly knows what he is talking about.")

Conte spoke his mind about a wide range of issues related to doping — who’s using what and the methodology and shortcomings of anti-doping authorities.

The former Tower of Power bassist said he recalled Pound appearing on a CBC (Canadian Broadcast Corporation) interview, saying, “Oh, I find Conte to credible. He’s a bad guy, but in my opinion, they need to listen to this bad guy.”