Nawwwwe wrote:
Yikes! wrote:
I feel bad for all involved, the pacemaker, his wife, and Asbel. Unfortunate stuff all around.
I've been a huge fan of Kiprop since the World Championships in 2007. Sad to see this.
Nah. Fück you and fück Asbel the cheat
Boy...you're a mean one!
What are you on about - you can’t say if he doped or not ? He got caught !!
I prefer village people morals ten times over the “educated” city people who always are “just doing their job”
Someone should have told Asbel you never go full retard
This really shows Kiprops' integrity as a person. I have no doubt now that he is innocent.
Disillusioned Aussie wrote:
A significant point is, he only got caught because his pacemaker set him up . Otherwise, he'd still be running. Not caught.
The testing program itself is not working. This proves it. The IAAF IS ineffective.
Makes you wonder just how deep the doping extends. Most are on good terms with their pacemakers.
We should stop lying to ourselves. Our sport is a joke.
This is the way it is with nearly all the drug busts in any sport.
Whistleblowers are far more successful in getting drug cheats caught than randomised drugs tests.
“He asked me to join them for a few drinks. Little did I know that he was on a mission to know my location before he went to pick my wife for a prearranged love making session. They killed a woman as they were driving back from the airport,” he said.
He killed another woman while driving? WTF?
Also, This Nancy woman admitted to "several affairs"...sounds as nuts as Kiprop.
WTFF wrote:
“He asked me to join them for a few drinks. Little did I know that he was on a mission to know my location before he went to pick my wife for a prearranged love making session. They killed a woman as they were driving back from the airport,” he said.
He killed another woman while driving? WTF?
Also, This Nancy woman admitted to "several affairs"...sounds as nuts as Kiprop.
Yes, the woman has a serious problem but Kiprop is a grown man, much older than the woman and therefore should not blame anyone but himself. He knowingly dipped his finger in the sauce. He should be man enough and confess to his friend and his wife and make amends. This issue was about two individuals - call it two families. After Kiprop called Andrew Chepsiya, why did he go ahead to post the video on his Facebook page? If the motive was to prove to Chepsiya what has been going on, the right thing would have been to send him the video and photos over the phone. That way things would have remained within the two families. The posting destroyed irreparably Chepsiya"s family.
ex-runner wrote:
Disillusioned Aussie wrote:
A significant point is, he only got caught because his pacemaker set him up . Otherwise, he'd still be running. Not caught.
The testing program itself is not working. This proves it. The IAAF IS ineffective.
Makes you wonder just how deep the doping extends. Most are on good terms with their pacemakers.
We should stop lying to ourselves. Our sport is a joke.
This is the way it is with nearly all the drug busts in any sport.
Whistleblowers are far more successful in getting drug cheats caught than randomised drugs tests.
Asbel may spill the beans. Nothing to lose.
Disillusioned Aussie wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
This is the way it is with nearly all the drug busts in any sport.
Whistleblowers are far more successful in getting drug cheats caught than randomised drugs tests.
Asbel may spill the beans. Nothing to lose.
Is he going to go nuclear and rat off all the dopers, coaches & doping doctors?
Disillusioned Aussie wrote:
A significant point is, he only got caught because his pacemaker set him up . Otherwise, he'd still be running. Not caught.
The testing program itself is not working. This proves it. The IAAF IS ineffective.
Makes you wonder just how deep the doping extends. Most are on good terms with their pacemakers.
We should stop lying to ourselves. Our sport is a joke.
I think that's always been the case.
Athletes get caught because of some mistake or set up.
Remember, Gatlin allegedly had a cream rubbed on him vindictively to give his positive test in 2006.
That may have been an excuse or it may have been true. But he escaped other positives leading up to that while he was juicing.
Ben Johnson left his coach for a short time before the Seoul Olympics when he was popped. Charlie Francis speculated that Ben may have gone off his juicing routine and found something on the side.
I think an injured and desperate Ramsey pushed his cycle a bit far going into the 2008 Olympics where months later, he was stripped of his Gold. Ironically that Gold was then awarded to Kiprop for his only Olympic medal.
And we can't forget that Marion Jones and others were found out by insiders ratting each other out in the BALCO scandal. She lost her titles by testimony, not positive tests.
Asbel just comes across as a sociopath who blames his problems that he created for himself on other people. Think about this stuff, he blames his pacemaker because he got busted for EPO. He blames the mistress because he got busted for cheating on his own wife. Like, wow. Also His mind frame now appears to be a reckless one. I hope he can get things under control and healthy. This is a bad time in his life and he needs to not enable a further spiral downward and not harm others.
Star wrote:
Disillusioned Aussie wrote:
A significant point is, he only got caught because his pacemaker set him up . Otherwise, he'd still be running. Not caught.
The testing program itself is not working. This proves it. The IAAF IS ineffective.
Makes you wonder just how deep the doping extends. Most are on good terms with their pacemakers.
We should stop lying to ourselves. Our sport is a joke.
I think that's always been the case.
Athletes get caught because of some mistake or set up.
Remember, Gatlin allegedly had a cream rubbed on him vindictively to give his positive test in 2006.
That may have been an excuse or it may have been true. But he escaped other positives leading up to that while he was juicing.
Ben Johnson left his coach for a short time before the Seoul Olympics when he was popped. Charlie Francis speculated that Ben may have gone off his juicing routine and found something on the side.
I think an injured and desperate Ramsey pushed his cycle a bit far going into the 2008 Olympics where months later, he was stripped of his Gold. Ironically that Gold was then awarded to Kiprop for his only Olympic medal.
And we can't forget that Marion Jones and others were found out by insiders ratting each other out in the BALCO scandal. She lost her titles by testimony, not positive tests.
And the biggest example: Landis ratting out Lance.
It is personally embarrassing that I grew up idolizing Africans and aspiring to their running ability.
In high school I had their magazine pictures on my bedroom wall.
Shoe company and marathon PR prints etc...
I had a few wretched Europeans on the wall too, but you get the point.
I would quickly school my kids toss that junk aside and see through all the phoniness of it.
Especially the multi culti phoney side of it all. I can’t read the nuances of foreign culture. This whole side world of Klenjin tribe talk is laughable. Seems to me they manipulate their image as a some indigenous culture as a part of their phoney success story.
Trashed sport wrote:
It is personally embarrassing that I grew up idolizing Africans and aspiring to their running ability.
In high school I had their magazine pictures on my bedroom wall.
Shoe company and marathon PR prints etc...
I had a few wretched Europeans on the wall too, but you get the point.
I would quickly school my kids toss that junk aside and see through all the phoniness of it.
Especially the multi culti phoney side of it all. I can’t read the nuances of foreign culture. This whole side world of Klenjin tribe talk is laughable. Seems to me they manipulate their image as a some indigenous culture as a part of their phoney success story.
One of the first runners whose picture went up on my wall was Lasse Viren....
Deadzone wrote:
I don't know why everyone is so shocked about his misbehavior - This is natural black behavior, this just proves it has nothing to do with being African American, it must be a tribal black thing too.
LOL Trump has lied and cheated far worse. Kiprop is also less emotional, feminine, and wears less makeup.
I love to laugh and laugh hard wrote:
Harhar wrote:
Asbel's moment of PED-fueled performance-art glory: The 2015 Elmsley Carr Mile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_YEMywWBLIAnd people actually come to this site and argue epo doesn't work ?
And people like you, mindweak, come here and suggest that Canova be shot. A man's words as you perceived them are enough in your mind that he should be killed?
What are you doing Lets Run, take this filth down kids come here.
Can you take the moral high ground for once rather than opting for clicks to sell more ads. Sign post if needs be.
lol wut wrote:
Deadzone wrote:
I don't know why everyone is so shocked about his misbehavior - This is natural black behavior, this just proves it has nothing to do with being African American, it must be a tribal black thing too.
LOL Trump has lied and cheated far worse. Kiprop is also less emotional, feminine, and wears less makeup.
Asbel is the Track &Field Trump. He can take our sport to new heights. He is an amazing representative of the sport.
I see you wrote:
I love to laugh and laugh hard wrote:
And people actually come to this site and argue epo doesn't work ?
And people like you, mindweak, come here and suggest that Canova be shot. A man's words as you perceived them are enough in your mind that he should be killed?
i take most things in stride on this place but this sh*t i will not tolerate.
do i think renato is a lying cheating farce? YES
have i ever posted randomly and said renato should be shot? NO and i am sick and F*CKING tired of some piece of sh*t spreading it around. listen hear, i have been banned for accusing rekrunner of being "gary" yet you think you can accuse me of this? well i have informed wejo and enough is enough.
EPO works, kenyans are getting busted, even elK has addmitted and opened his eyes, yet some of you still have to resort to INSULTS, THREATS and ACCUSATIONS....on me?? really? am i going around making MILLIONS of dollars and saying EPO doesnt work? am i going around making MILLIONS and cheating clean runners out of money and medals? NO
but im the one who gets harassed, insulted, antagonized, offended, bullied, deleted, banned, instigated, and you have to go as far and claim im wanting renato SHOT. really? its pathetic.
there are still 2 kenyan names to be DROPPED, one being a HIGH PROFILE runner....yet im the one getting silenced and verbally abused and assaulted.
you deniers and apologists are making it worse, here i will give you an example and see if you can see how it works
pope = renato
bishops = deniers/apologists
elK = martin luther
raping little boys = kenyans abusing EPO
the world sees the problem, but the pope acts like its no tooo bad and just a little forgiveness, and this bishops keep protecting the disgusting pedos who are raping little boys
the running world sees the problem, but renato preaches that EPO isnt really cheating cause it doesnt work, rekrunner and the other apologists keep protecting the dopers who are ruining the sport
martin luther exposed the hypocrisy after years of following blindly
elK i believe is now so angry and hurt and the tarnished image of his countries heros, and i think eventually will be the most prominent one on here speaking OUT about EPO.
and im considered some heretic, "burn him at the stake"......as if im the one somehow BENEFITING from exposing EPO, look douche bags i dont GAIN a thing, not money, not fame, nothing....i ran track for 18yrs or so, i loved it, but the lies need to stop.
everyone knows the US doped and still does, everyone knows the east germans did, everyone knows the russians did and still do....but the PROBLEM is for some bullsh*t reason this myth and lie that jamaicans and east africans DONT and NEVER WOULD dope is the problem
EPO doesnt work on kenyans is like saying ROIDS dont work on jamaicans
yeah testing got strict on jamaica, and how fast are they now?