Kenyan 800m Word medallist Kipyegon Bett Suspended After Refusing Drugs Test

Keniano is pale white wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

^Still almost zero positives from the US, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland and others ? ... Not suspicious at all.

Year round testing in those nations. ZERO year round testing in E. Africa. LOL Go back your cluttered Brooklyn walkup and come up with some other excuse. You hasbro-rats are amusing if nothing else.

Someday we'll actually have real Kenyans posting here.

Zero testing in the only country that’s actually catching violators? Interesting. By the way, judging by the composition of the AIU, and reading between the lines from their media interviews and activity on social media, I can confidently state that there will never be any notable busts from the countries I mentioned . Take that how you will.

Protected Western Athletes wrote:

Andy Norman brought mainstream doping to the UK Athletics scene during the 80s - FACT!

Who the heck is Andy Norman? And what kind of doping did he supposedly bring to the UK? I didn't think UK distance runners doped - atleast that's what I'm hearing from UK distance running experts here. ?

El Keniano wrote:

Keniano is pale white wrote:

Year round testing in those nations. ZERO year round testing in E. Africa. LOL Go back your cluttered Brooklyn walkup and come up with some other excuse. You hasbro-rats are amusing if nothing else.

Someday we'll actually have real Kenyans posting here.

Zero testing in the only country that’s actually catching violators? Interesting. By the way, judging by the composition of the AIU, and reading between the lines from their media interviews and activity on social media, I can confidently state that there will never be any notable busts from the countries I mentioned . Take that how you will.

Oooh, whatever do you mean Kenneth. You're so mysterious.

Liking the new change of attitude though. Gone from 'Kenyans don't dope, it's all a conspiracy of the white man', to 'Ok, Kenyans are cheating dopes, but countries with a lot of white people dope worse because I say so'.

Coevett wrote:

Of course, nobody has ever said no white runners dope, and you would expect, especially in the EPO free for all era, for a small number of Europeans and Australasians to have taken advantage. What's remarkable is that clearly only a few did, including it being unlikely the elite Brits did (excluding the possibility of Mo), given that British times actually declined.

Hey! I am Coevett! I am not a racist! You all accusing me of being racist are just SJW, ebony-loving, marxists who have threatened me with doxxing! I am not racist!!!

But hey, the white Brits were unlikely to dope, but the black Brit probably did.

Weren't the Doping East Germans, White and European?

One of the East German shady doctors, Heiko Salzwedel, was also Great British Wiggins' "coach". Salzwedel was also involved in those dirty Russian teams that was banned from international competitions.

Someone needs to remind us why we are expected to believe Kenyans are all dirty and European Whites are almost certainly clean.

THERE WILL BE NO NOTABLE BUSTS OF AMERICAN, BRITISH, CANADIAN, AUSTRALIAN OR NEW ZEALAND ATHLETES. Especially if they're the 'right kind'. Save this post. If I'm wrong, I'll out myself here on this site .

The team is headed by an Aussie and almost entirely made up of people from Anglo-Saxon countries. To me, they might as well have filled the board with Coevett, Trollism, Deanouk, Mindweak, Subway and the like. The guy said in Hajo Seppelt interview that they have a team of 5 testers? Wonder how spread out across they world they are? Any bets if they'll be doing a round of tests in Australia? They will not be going after any Yanks, Brits, Aussies, Kiwis or Canucks. To me, it looks like they have a mandate to restore the 'glory days' and decimate those that usurped "their sport". Being human beings, of course they're prejudiced. How would you lot react if Russians were judge and jury over your fates? This is such a joke I can't believe they didn't attempt to inject some semblance of diversity into the board.

Head of the AIU: Brett Clothier - Australia

The Board

Chair: David Howman - New Zealand

Member: Marc Peltier - France

Member: Dr Andrew Pipe - Canada

Member: Abby Hoffman - Canada

What a coincidence.

https://www.athleticsintegrity.org/know-us

Here's the interview with Hajo Seppelt. Says all the right things but those with good sense can tell where his sympathies lie.

https://ecs.sportschau.de/ecs2018/videos_audios/Interview-mit-Brett-Clothier,ecsvideo148.html

This is their Twitter account. The more tenacious amongst you might want check out their tweets, timeline, likes and retweets as well as who they're following. Not inappropriate to openly fanboy over certain kinds of athletes fortuitously similar to a majority of Letsrun posters. Hey, they're even fans of Jakob Ingebrigtsen. No conflict of interest there.

https://twitter.com/AIU_Athletics

https://twitter.com/AIU_Athletics/following

https://twitter.com/AIU_Athletics/status/1016681119855661056

And who's the first person they followed once they launched their Twitter account last year? Drum roll ? ... wait for it ... the one only Ms Paula Radcliffe. Yay!

If I was a Kenyan athlete, I'd certainly entrust my entire career and reputation into these guys' very neutral, unbiased hands.

Epitome of diversity at this meeting in Tampere, Finland. #Trustyoulotwithmylife

https://twitter.com/SUEK_FINCIS/status/1017054056114683905

El Keniano wrote:

Epitome of diversity at this meeting in Tampere, Finland. #Trustyoulotwithmylife

https://twitter.com/SUEK_FINCIS/status/1017054056114683905

They should put an African in charge. No chance of corruption there.

In fact, the IAAF should do the same. What could go wrong?

I am convinced that you are just trolling now.

trollism wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Epitome of diversity at this meeting in Tampere, Finland. #Trustyoulotwithmylife

https://twitter.com/SUEK_FINCIS/status/1017054056114683905

They should put an African in charge. No chance of corruption there.

In fact, the IAAF should do the same. What could go wrong?

Of course partisanship is always an issue.

No, it's false to say that they have improved a lot in the marathon. Even marathon times have been declining in the last several years. Same for half-marathons and 5K and 10K road races. I've been doing quite a thorough analysis of Kenyan times in every men's track event for the last 5 years, and the only event where times haven't gone down the last two years is the 800m. I will post it here at the end of the season. The 800m stats bucking the trend might be due to the number of 400m runners moving up the 800m. Even that might be related to the stricter drugs testing (EPO is one of the easiest performance enhancers to clear out of the system quickly, so it might make sense for 400m runners to move up and join the EPO party, as long as the Kenyan 'random' testers are still giving athletes 24 hours text warning of 'unannounced' tests.)

said88 wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

WHAT?!?!?

This was not an offense in any way, as I have clearly stated. The question is not important at all to me, I just wanted openly to give my IMPRESSIONS on this since this a few times was the subject I think. If you are Kenyan - that's great. If not - also great.

No, he is indeed a Kenyan. I thought he was a white guy 'identifying' as a Kenyan due to some weird psychological need, but it turns out he's an actual Kenyan racist and all round nut job.

said88 wrote:

And for sure it's more than just little curious (and not bad to question this from El Keniano) that there are almost no positives from most other athletics countries. To put it like Brits are something more ethical like others is just absurd. Also that there might be no doping at the moment in British athletics at the moment. There are so many improvements in the last years that it's just astonishing (bicycling, Dina Asher-Smith, field events... - to name just a few). And for sure also Mo Farah. For sure I would never accuse seomeone without proof - just the overall view Kenyans are ALL "bad", Brits are (almost) all "good" is just laughable.

Face it Said, I've been proven correct (like I usually am) on the Kenyan doping issue. A few people here should be aplogizing to me, including the BroJos. FOUR Kenyans have been suspended in the last three weeks, and that just after Kiprop's disgrace. TWO more high profile Kenyan athletes are about to be revealed as failing tests, perhaps this week. And it wont stop I'm afraid. As I mentioned, the trial of the Kenyan team manager for Rio is due to take place any time now. What he's been accused of is quite staggering. Running a doping system for top athletes from an El Doret hospital (which David Rudisha officially opened). But instead of apologizing for slandering and bullying me, the Kenyan doping apologists here appear to have no shame whatsoever and are now turning the rash of busts and suspensions as somehow proving that there is a conspiracy against Kenyans.

Kenyans are many times poorer than the West. It takes a whole village to raise a child in Africa, it takes one elite Kenyan on EPO to raise an entire village out of poverty. EPO was available like candy until the last year or so. Testing is still atrocious but at last something is being done and top Kenyan runners are being subjected to at least minimum standards. Kenya is one of the most corrupt countries on Earth. It is highly credible that most Kenyan elite runners dope and most British or German runners do not. Anyone who screams racist at myself or anyone else here for holding that opinion is nothing other than a doping apologist killing our sport. And that includes the Brojos.

And Deano is quite right to point out that a lot of the credit for the sport being cleaned up should go to Sebastian Coe.

I came here less than two years ago, arguing that inherent East African superiority was a myth, and that it was largely due to doping, and that talented young non-Africans would prove this, including and above all Jakob Ingebrigsten.

And I was right.

Coevett wrote:

A few people here should be aplogizing to me, including the BroJos.

You should be apologizing a lot more than anyone else on here, you filthy racist.

Coevett wrote:

Of course, nobody has ever said no white runners dope, and you would expect, especially in the EPO free for all era, for a small number of Europeans and Australasians to have taken advantage. What's remarkable is that clearly only a few did, including it being unlikely the elite Brits did (excluding the possibility of Mo), given that British times actually declined.

Hey! I am Coevett! I am not a racist! You all accusing me of being racist are just SJW, ebony-loving, marxists who have threatened me with doxxing! I am not racist!!!

But hey, the white Brits were unlikely to dope, but the black Brit probably did.[/quote]

Coevett wrote:

I came here less than two years ago, arguing that inherent East African superiority was a myth, and that it was largely due to doping, and that talented young non-Africans would prove this, including and above all Jakob Ingebrigsten.

And I was right.

You were and you are wrong, boyo.

Hi Viva! Have the FBI called yet?

Coevett wrote:

Hi Viva! Have the FBI called yet?

Hi racist turd, you were wrong. You are wrong. You lost.

When I was called a racist for speaking out about all the dirty Jamaicans, it was easy to point out that it would be essentially all blacks who would benefit from the dopers being suspended: other Jamaicans, black Canadians, Americans, Brits, etc.

I wonder if the same is true for marathon/distance. I do sense a racial flavor to this debate, but not to be forgotten are all those CLEAN east African athletes, and black athletes all around the world, who deserve a shot once things are cleaned up.

Coevett wrote:

And I was right.

All else aside, it kinda looks that way.

FMD, we even had two Aussies first and second in the mile in Birmingham DL, that just wouldn't have happened until recently because the Kenyan, Ethiopian, Moroccans, etc would have seen it as good opportunity to pick up dollars so there would have been plenty of them starting. Where were they, has the scrutiny and increased PED testing frightened them away?, and what happened to the one's who were in race, off the sauce?

Interesting to see who the outstanding two positive PED/test avoiders are.