Caster Semenya break 50.00 for 1st time - Wins African champs with dominating 49.96

Slaney’s 52.77 is impressive but a world away from 49.9. Let me put it this way. 49.9 could get you a medal at the Olympics. 52.77 could get a medal at college conference meet.

Understand now wrote:

Slaney’s 52.77 is impressive but a world away from 49.9. Let me put it this way. 49.9 could get you a medal at the Olympics. 52.77 could get a medal at college conference meet.

Totally agree, but how many of the other women on the list could even come within a minute of 8:25.

Lydiard Cerutty wrote:

His PBs:

400m: 49.96

600m: 1:21.77 WB

800m: 1:54.25

1500m: 3:59.92 NR

World records in those events:

Marita Koch 47.60

Jarmila Kratochvílová 1:53.28 (she was probably a he too)

Genzebe Dibaba (ETH) 3:50.07 (works with a coach that is known for doping)

Kratochvílová is not a guy, but was like Koch part of the Eastern Bloc's steroid experiment.

The other ladies discussed here, Wilson and Slaney, are/were also dopers.

Semenya has testicles, not ovaries. No vaginal canal.

My high school teammate ran 49.9/1:54.8/4:18 mile. Semenya's run 49.96/1:54.28/3:59 or 4:00 1500, which is equivalent to about a 4:18 mile. These times are now pretty equivalent to one another. Recall that the 400m record in 47.60 and the 800 record 1:53.28.

paul72 wrote:

maybe it would be if she ran 47.60....LOL

Maybe he isn't that fast, and this isn't a humorous issue.

Whatley wrote:

The Watushi are seven feet tall, the Pygmy four foot tall. They are who they are.

Look at the Kenyans, they are totally different in built than you or I, yep, it is what it is. Is it fair for Jamaican sprinters to run against Asian sprinters? Really think about it.

Semenya is doing nothing other than being who she is, just like we all do.

Are you saying Safa women all have balls?

Fine list. Notably, the only other runners to go sub 52 and close to 4 were Olizarenko, being doped like crazy with Dianabol and so on, Semenya, and Maria Mutola, 51.55/1:55.19/4:01.50, also suspected to be a case like Semenya's, namely, xxy female with high testosterone and a build that you would otherwise never see in a female 4 1500m runner.

GFR wrote:

Vfvtfyvvfy wrote:

How fast was Mary Slaney at 400?

Mary ran 2:02 at age 14 but only ran 52. Olizarenko was the closest with a sub 51 and sub 4. This puts Semenya's performance in perspective, but also Mary's range.

Slaney: 52.77, 1:56.90, 3:57.12, 8:25.83

Quirot: 49.61, 1:54.44, 4:13.08

Mutola: 51.55, 1:55.19, 4:01.50

Miles-Clark: 49.40, 1:56.40, 4:31.41

Olizarenko: 50.96, 1:53.43, 3:59.48

Semenya: 49.96, 1:54.25, 3:59.92

Kratochvilova: 47.99, 1:53.28

Lydiard Cerutty wrote:

milermb wrote:

Proof that she is a 400/800 type not a 800/1500 type.

The female Juantorena! Why she bothers with 1500 is beyond me; she would stand more chance of winning a 400 in Diamond League races than a fast 1500.

If she had better endurance a sub 50 400 should point to a 800 in the low 1:50s; "jog" through 400 in 55 and come home in 56? 57?

His PBs:

400m: 49.96

600m: 1:21.77 WB

800m: 1:54.25

1500m: 3:59.92 NR

World records in those events:

Marita Koch 47.60

Jarmila Kratochvílová 1:53.28 (she was probably a he too)

Genzebe Dibaba (ETH) 3:50.07 (works with a coach that is known for doping)

Ha ?

zxcvzxcv wrote:

My high school teammate ran 49.9/1:54.8/4:18 mile.

What was her name?

I’m more impressed with Slaney’s 52.77 400m than Semenya’s 49.9.

Lydiard Cerutty wrote:

longjack wrote:

you know that anyone that is sub 50 with good aerobic training goes sub 4 in the mile.....

If he loses his gut, he could easily smash the women's world record.

Go fu ck yourself?

Seriously, no one cares about a dude breaking 50 seconds for 400 meters. I can't wait for the new testosterone limits to go into effect. Semenya is making a mockery of the sport. I find no entertainment in watching him run and am not impressed with his performances.

Misgendering in 2018, still not cool wrote:

Lydiard Cerutty wrote:

If he loses his gut, he could easily smash the women's world record.

Go fu ck yourself?

With her 49 400m and 3:59 1500m? What should her 800 be? I'm guessing faster than her 1:54 pb

Race video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w_2FkRXwEw

LetsRun.com wrote:

Race video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w_2FkRXwEw

Is it just my eyes or is that track bumpy?

That looked like another guy in lane 2.

Leopardly wrote:

With her 49 400m and 3:59 1500m? What should her 800 be? I'm guessing faster than her 1:54 pb

I use a little formula myself and I get 1:53.0 using 50 flat and 4:00 (her PB is 3:59.9 and 49.96).

WR could be on in my opinion but it will still be tough.