CONFIRMED: It's Eugene - 2020 Olympic Trials

What you fail to note about these figures is that in Eugene the stands are close to full on all afternoon sessions, and better attended morning sessions that the others...

The athletes feel more appreciated for sure.

ncrecuvuer wrote:

a US Olympic trials not in Eugene would just look weird.

You do realize that the Trials were not in Eugene from 1984-2004?

I think it should be the opposite: USAs in Eugene and the Trials somewhere else. Like the Brojos said, the Trials get good attendance no matter what, it's the other years that really struggle.

Once Another Duck wrote:

Malmo will even be able to appreciated it because it has a little influence of the designers of the stadia in Gothernberg and Malmo.

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Don't understand what that has to do with me?

Jonathan Gault wrote:

It's funny to me that USATF took the Trials away from Mt. SAC because of stadium issues and are giving it to a place whose stadium doesn't exist yet. I'm sure they have assurances from Eugene that the stadium will be done on time, but they probably got those same assurances from Mt. SAC when they initially awarded the Trials.

Exactly!

Eugene may be the Mecca of the sport within the U.S., but revoking the Olympic Trials decision and switching them to another venue with an unfinished stadium seems to be the pinnacle of hypocrisy.

Exactly. Let's be honest the weather in Eugene sucks for a spectator or anyone not currently on the track competing. Get ready to sit in the cold rain for days on end.

Oh and let's go ahead and throw this thread title out there: It's Eugene - 2024 Olympic Trials

olive oil wrote:

Exactly. Let's be honest the weather in Eugene sucks for a spectator or anyone not currently on the track competing. Get ready to sit in the cold rain for days on end.

Daily high temperature and rain accumulation for the last three Olympic Trials in Eugene

2008

6/27: 87°F, 0.0 inches of rain

6/28: 97°F, 0.02 inches of rain

6/29: 90°F, 0.01 inches of rain

6/30: 85°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/3: 84°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/4: 78°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/5: 77°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/6: 77°F, 0.0 inches of rain

2012

6/22: 63°F, 0.22 inches of rain

6/23: 64°F, 0.05 inches of rain

6/24: 69°F, 0.03 inches of rain

6/25: 66°F, 0.14 inches of rain

6/28: 73°F, 0.0 inches of rain

6/29: 75°F, 0.0 inches of rain

6/30: 71°F, 0.13 inches of rain

7/1: 73°F, 0.03 inches of rain

2016

7/1: 85°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/2: 89°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/3: 82°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/4: 79°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/7: 77°F, 0.08 inches of rain

7/8: 72°F, 0.06 inches of rain

7/9: 74°F, 0.0 inches of rain

7/10: 68°F, 0.11 inches of rain

More concerned about the city of Eugene's ability to host 2021 Worlds. Are there even enough hotel accommodations, public transport, etc. in the city to handle such an event? Not sure if spectators are going to want to drive back and forth from Portland everyday. Attended World's in London in 17' - absolutely stellar venue, location, and world class city. IMO, no way Eugene compares.

I get so confused about people complaining about the Eugene weather. I was in the cheap seats (so no sun or rain protection) every day of the trials in 2012 and 2016 and the only day I remember being miserable was day 1 of 2012 with the 10ks in a downpour. 2012 was rainier than 2016, but bring a raincoat or buy a poncho. You're not going to melt.

A small group of people loved the LA bid and event, the USATF people that took money to allow LA to host. I wonder if they now have to return the Mt. Sac bribe?

Corruption at its finest and we can do nothing to stop it.

Jonathan Gault wrote:

(BTW, I think the Mt. SAC stadium will be ready by June 2020 but USATF was clearly scared off by the lawsuits and some lack of communication from Mt. SAC).

The "lawsuits" were bogus. They were nothing-burgers.

Locals have no say in state school projects. The reason is NIMBYs would never let any school get upgraded. In California, state school projects are controlled by the Division of the State Architect. Prisons and other types of state projects are also controlled at the state level and not the local level.

As if by special magic wand (Nike?) the lawsuits were dropped AFTER the USATF pulled the trials from Mt. Sac. Mission accomplished by the wielder of the special magic wand.

It is the nature of the seasonal weather pattern on the west coast, that a couple of weeks (or even one week) earlier or later can make all the difference.

Note that 2012, the "early" year, had six days of measurable rain. Even if the measure is very small, any rain means a there is a cold front with chilly conditions unpleasant for fans and most of the athletes.

Also note that 2008 had rain on two of the first three days before drying out.

2020 trials will be "early": June 19-28. Live possibility for a repeat of 2012, while Sacramento would be offering much more pleasant conditions..

Sacramento... pleasant?!? How about hot and miserable. No protection from the sun.

Also, note the high temperatures during the early days of 2008. Those of us in attendance remember the heat not the rain. I'm guessing you weren't there as fans complained about the heat and not the minimal amount of moisture. There has been 1 day out of 24 with significant rain and a few days of moderate moisture. The weather argument just doesn't hold up.

acebond wrote:

More concerned about the city of Eugene's ability to host 2021 Worlds. Are there even enough hotel accommodations, public transport, etc. in the city to handle such an event? Not sure if spectators are going to want to drive back and forth from Portland everyday. Attended World's in London in 17' - absolutely stellar venue, location, and world class city. IMO, no way Eugene compares.

Only a fool would even think to compare London to Eugene. What a laugh.

Eugene has the world's because it was the only place, with Nike's help, in the USA that could mount a bid with all the support required.

In the late 80's some runners tried to do a bid for Palo Alto. Not a chance.

IAAF was open to seeing it in the USA somehow... This was the only way it was going to happen!

Enjoy.

M. SAC, Sacremento, and Austin are all easy to fly into and fairly easy to get around. Mt. Sac and Austin are cities with plenty to do after the meet. There ain't a damn thing to do in Eugene unless you make the 2 hour drive to Portland. This sport will never grow if it is anchored in a city that no young people want to go to, hell even the athletes would rather have it somewhere else. My son ran in the NCAA this past June and said it was boring, cold and miserable; as did most of his teammates. I have overheared a few coaches complain about having to trek to Eugene every year for nationals while dining out during the NCAA's. Alan Abrahamson sums up my feeling exactly in the article below:

https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2018/8/2/ljibbq7anl3wde4jvydrieo831t0yk

+1000

Track and Field in the USA is dead. And Eugene is the pallbearer.

Hopefully the track and field complex will be completed by then. You never know when a labor/management issue arises.

slick5800` wrote:M. SAC, Sacremento, and Austin are all easy to fly into and fairly easy to get around. Mt. Sac and Austin are cities with plenty to do after the meet. There ain't a damn thing to do in Eugene unless you make the 2 hour drive to Portland. This sport will never grow if it is anchored in a city that no young people want to go to, hell even the athletes would rather have it somewhere else. My son ran in the NCAA this past June and said it was boring, cold and miserable; as did most of his teammates. I have overheared a few coaches complain about having to trek to Eugene every year for nationals while dining out during the NCAA's. Alan Abrahamson sums up my feeling exactly in the article below:

I can well recall the moniker that PVP affixed to Abrahamson a couple of years ago and I completely concur. His constant homerism for L.A. as his favored site for various major track meets, despite L.A.'s general lack of track interest for the past couple of decades, reminds me of an article I once read in a golf magazine or maybe it was Outside about the well regarded courses at Bandon Dunes, 20 miles south of Coos Bay, Oregon. The writer said that you practically had to have 4-wheel drive to get there to the resort. What a load of B.S. The place is on galldurn U.S. 101 which is, needless to say, a paved highway. And on this forum, endless whining about a 122-mile drive down a major Interstate from PDX to Hayward Field, as if you were leaving your mommy for the first time in your lives.

You people in the East and Midwest who don't want to go anywhere that doesn't have a humongous international airport within 5 miles amuse me. You're so parochial in your own way.

acebond wrote:

More concerned about the city of Eugene's ability to host 2021 Worlds. Are there even enough hotel accommodations, public transport, etc. in the city to handle such an event? Not sure if spectators are going to want to drive back and forth from Portland everyday. Attended World's in London in 17' - absolutely stellar venue, location, and world class city. IMO, no way Eugene compares.

In the original Worlds proposal they outlined people would stay in cities like Portland and take the "new" train to Eugene. Does anyone know if the train is completed and what would be the travel time.

We all know the shortage of hotel issues in Eugene , the gouging of hotel prices thats taken place for years. Options will be limited.

Lots of focus on the stadium, but that realistically will be the least of the problems. Thats a singular focus that has Nike behind it and will be ready.

Having a place to stay for journalists, spectators and all will be another story.

BTW, at the last NCAA's Eugene ran out of rental cars. Just an example of whats to come.