Breaking: 2020 Olympics qualifying will be focused on world rankings, not hitting a standard. How will this impact USA?

Depending on how the time criterion is defined this could have all kinds of effects. Let's do some actual research and look at the depth of ACTUAL qualifiers by country for the 2016 OG.

11 nations had three A qualifiers in the M100 (10.16).

8 nations at M200 (20.50)

6 nations at M400 (45.40)

5 nations at M800 (1:46.00)

4 nations at M1500 (3:36.40)

8 nations at M5k (13:25.00)

5 nations at M10k (28:00.00)

5 nations at M110H (13.47)

4 nations at M400H (49.40)

8 nations at 3kST (8:30.00)

6 nations at W100 (11.32) (I find this slightly surprising, expected similar data to M100)

8 nations at W200 (23.20)

7 nations at W400 (52.2)

7 nations at W800 (2:01.50)

8 nations at W1500 (4:07.00)

6 nations at W5k (15:24.00)

5 nations at W10k (32:15.00)

5 nations at W100H (13.00)

5 nations at W400H (56.20)

8 nations at W3kST (9:45.00)

All of the above include the USA.

I think this talk of lowering the time standard to 2:12 or 2:14 that has ben mentioned is missing the point Rankings Come First then a net to be sure someone who would surely be in the medal hunt has entry. For Ranking you factor in time, perceived event strength DF, GW , GL, A-F and finish place.

IMO 2020 OG Marathon EXCEPTIONAL PERFORMANCE QUALIFYING TIME will be set at what ever the 10th* shortest time of the year is. Currently IAAF lists that at 2:05:30

All other Qs will come from the ranking system.

*limit of 3 athletes per nation

Another thought inspired by the last post:

The marathon at the 2016 OGs had >150 entrants. This is essentially a list that's been filtered for

theIAAFisconfusing wrote:

Another thought inspired by the last post:

The marathon at the 2016 OGs had >150 entrants. This is essentially a list that's been filtered for

Not sure why the rest of that got cut off:

Another thought inspired by the last post:

The marathon at the 2016 OGs had >150 entrants. This is essentially a list that's been filtered for

theIAAFisconfusing wrote:

theIAAFisconfusing wrote:

Another thought inspired by the last post:

The marathon at the 2016 OGs had >150 entrants. This is essentially a list that's been filtered for

Not sure why the rest of that got cut off:

Another thought inspired by the last post:

The marathon at the 2016 OGs had >150 entrants. This is essentially a list that's been filtered for

it aint groundhog day

wutz amadda you wrote:

theIAAFisconfusing wrote:

Not sure why the rest of that got cut off:

Another thought inspired by the last post:

The marathon at the 2016 OGs had >150 entrants. This is essentially a list that's been filtered for

it aint groundhog day

I gave up after two attempts. I thought it was a pretty good post too. It's a real shame.

If Texas boy wejo can move to NYC you can at least try one more time.

Final attempt. In 2016 there were >150 entrants in the OG marathon. Each country gets 3 maximum, and the standard was 2:19:00. Thus, in theory, number 150something on the world ranking list AFTER filtering out athletes beyond each country's #3, would have run 2:19:00. It follows that limiting the field size to 80 or 100 (for World's 2019) would result in a minimum time needed to qualify of well under 2:19:00. Long story short, it's going to be much harder to qualify.

theIAAFisconfusing wrote:

Final attempt. In 2016 there were >150 entrants in the OG marathon. Each country gets 3 maximum, and the standard was 2:19:00. Thus, in theory, number 150something on the world ranking list AFTER filtering out athletes beyond each country's #3, would have run 2:19:00. It follows that limiting the field size to 80 or 100 (for World's 2019) would result in a minimum time needed to qualify of well under 2:19:00. Long story short, it's going to be much harder to qualify.

Looks like the standard for Doha 2019 is 2:16, with no B standard.

Is the Olympic Qualifying standard for 2020 going to be brought down to 2:16 or so, or will it remain 2:19? I hope it stays 2:19.

I think it's silly to limit the size of the marathon field as few countries have any runners under 2:16. Let the best 1-3 marathoners from each country start the race so long as they're sub-2:20. In a championship race anyone has a shot at being a factor.