I guess the 400h is the low hanging fruit, she is the best in the world right now. However, if the trend continues she could be competing for medals in the flat 400 in the next 2 years and who would choose to run the hurdles over a flat race? The way it works is, athletes gravitate to the easiest event they can have success at.
TrackCoach wrote:
I guess the 400h is the low hanging fruit, she is the best in the world right now. However, if the trend continues she could be competing for medals in the flat 400 in the next 2 years and who would choose to run the hurdles over a flat race? The way it works is, athletes gravitate to the easiest event they can have success at.
Yeah but having a world record would be pretty nice. And that’s impossible in the open 400m.
i understand what you're saying, but she will have easier success at 400h compared to 400m.
right now she is at least .5 second better than any other woman in the world at 400h, probably more like .7-1.0 better. her level of success (winning medals, setting records) in the 400h could span 10-15 years. we could be talking about her on this message board in the 2032 olympics because she is just about to turn 19. historically, there isn't as much competition in the 400h as the 400m which is why her dominance could last so long. her path to long sustained success is so much clearer and easier in the 400h.
now in the 400m she is definitely not the best right now. i would bet on miller and naser over her and there are a slew of other young 400m runners like wimbley, ellis, irby, etc with similar ability. miller and naser aren't exactly on the downside of their careers. both are looking like historical talents with only 10 women having ever broken 49. like everyone else, i think mclaughlin can break 49 but there are potentially 3-4 others who could do it in the same race in the next few years.
douglas burke wrote:
She is the Future World Record Holder in the 400 Hurdles AND she is a MAJOR THREAT to break Marita Koch's LONGSTANDING 47.60 for the 400 which was looking to seem unbreakable for another few decades, nothing normal about that kind of talent, Think Heike Drechler type of Athletic talent, Male Equivelants would be Eliud Kipchoge, Geb, Edwin Moses, Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens and even Usain Bolt though Bolt's personality made him a bigger star than just his World Records. Jesse Owens besides his many accomplishments was in a significant historic meet the 1936 Olympics which Elevated his Legend, I think she will be like Edwin Moses, Winning all the time usually by large margins and bringing the records in her events down so low, the person who breaks it Grand Parents are not born yet.
This is a RARE SPECIAL ATHLETE, nothing normal about her talent.
This must be written by someone in her family.
She has no medals
She has no WR records
She lacks a personality during interviews
She has potential .
Kind of like the NBA draft. Bet on the future.
hcigcg wrote:
She has no medals
She has no WR records
She lacks a personality during interviews
She has potential .
Kind of like the NBA draft. Bet on the future.
Her personality sucks. No charisma. She's not fast enough like the all-time greats, and 400m hurdles is not a marquee event.
You all are missing the point. He track future is a few years. Her personal brand is good for 20 years. She's an exciting athlete who will be famous for a long time.
crumpet wrote:
You all are missing the point. He track future is a few years. Her personal brand is good for 20 years. She's an exciting athlete who will be famous for a normal but obscure track athlete for a long time.
FTFY. She’s no Bolt, she’s normal. She’s no Serena, she does track. She’s no sprinter, she does the obscure 400h.
You might want to check her PR's from 100m through the 400m and retract your stupid statement...troll!
Sanjay Gupta wrote:
crumpet wrote:
You all are missing the point. He track future is a few years. Her personal brand is good for 20 years. She's an exciting athlete who will be famous for a normal but obscure track athlete for a long time.
FTFY. She’s no Bolt, she’s normal. She’s no Serena, she does track. She’s no sprinter, she does the obscure 400h.
HS memory wrote:
Olde Hogge wrote:
Leaves her coach, Edrick Floreal. Huge mistake, in my opinion. Why do top athletes do this?
Really? She was great before Eldrick, he did not make her. She will be great without him.
If it worked out pretty well for Jeremy Warriner, should also for her.
She improved markedly with Floreal as her coach, which is part of the reason he got the UT job. She'll continue to improve with other coaches. This isn't distance running. You don't need some sort of magical coach to get improvement in a young sprinter at 20.
zxcvzxcv wrote:
She improved markedly with Floreal as her coach, which is part of the reason he got the UT job. She'll continue to improve with other coaches. This isn't distance running. You don't need some sort of magical coach to get improvement in a young sprinter at 20.
Time will tell.
Disagree with that. Look at Felix. She already has a tv career and she isn’t even done with track yet. Santa Richards, same thing. Felix works for American ninja warrior. She is intelligent, pretty, and already had a following. Syd could be in the same situation after a lengthy career. She could have that in 10-15 years.
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
HS memory wrote:
Really? She was great before Eldrick, he did not make her. She will be great without him.
If it worked out pretty well for Jeremy Warriner, should also for her.
Wariner (with one "r") left Hart at 24, after being coached by him for six years.
McLaughlin is leaving Floreal at 18, after being coached by him for one year.
I'm not sure they are that analogous.
The future in the 400m is Gabby Thomas.
Cant wrote:
Disagree with that. Look at Felix. She already has a tv career and she isn’t even done with track yet. Santa Richards, same thing. Felix works for American ninja warrior. She is intelligent, pretty, and already had a following. Syd could be in the same situation after a lengthy career. She could have that in 10-15 years.
Allyson Felix on ANW? What is her role on the show?
bruinboy wrote:
You might want to check her PR's from 100m through the 400m and retract your stupid statement...troll!
Sanjay Gupta wrote:
FTFY. She’s no Bolt, she’s normal. She’s no Serena, she does track. She’s no sprinter, she does the obscure 400h.
Oh I don’t disagree that she has good sprinting PRs. The women’s hurdles are lower and thus favor sprinters more than the men’s hurdles. Sydney’s able to excel at the 400h because she’s good at sprinting.
But that doesn’t make her a sprinter. And someone who chooses a B-event and dodges the real competition will never be at the top of the sport.
Cant wrote:
Disagree with that. Look at Felix. She already has a tv career and she isn’t even done with track yet. Santa Richards, same thing. Felix works for American ninja warrior. She is intelligent, pretty, and already had a following. Syd could be in the same situation after a lengthy career. She could have that in 10-15 years.
Felix sprints and Richards sprinted. McLaughlin hurdles.
Can you name a popular women’s 400 hurdler?
A couple things to point out.
You’re trying to compare her to hurdlers of the past. The point is she isn’t like any hurdlers of the past. Gail Devers and Lolo Jones were pretty popular and Sydney will be moreso.
You’re also implying that she won’t ever run the open sprint events, which is a very premature assumption.
yhrebray wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
If it worked out pretty well for Jeremy Warriner, should also for her.
Wariner (with one "r") left Hart at 24, after being coached by him for six years.
McLaughlin is leaving Floreal at 18, after being coached by him for one year.
I'm not sure they are that analogous.
All change is disruptive, personally I'd have stayed with the known vs the unknown. BUT.....certainly not my decision. Time will tell.