Banner. wrote:
Another idiot wrote:
If you have 2:40 or better talent then it's easy. If you have 3 hour talent then it will be a lot less likely.
Wth does that mean? Your saying there is a gene specifically associated for each minute in the marathon?
The OP needs to follow this up and do it for real.
Natural talent bell curve. Some people are never going to run sub 3 no matter what they do. Some people can do it on almost no miles. I've run sub 3 on 20-30 miles a week with no workouts.
It's possible with low mileage alone if you've got the talent.
I don't see any virtue barring injury problems to do sub optimal training.
yeah. wrote:
Banner. wrote:
Wth does that mean? Your saying there is a gene specifically associated for each minute in the marathon?
The OP needs to follow this up and do it for real.
Natural talent bell curve. Some people are never going to run sub 3 no matter what they do. Some people can do it on almost no miles. I've run sub 3 on 20-30 miles a week with no workouts.
Then I suppose you've done sub 2:20 when you trained properly.
Note: a humblebrag requires some sense of humility, even if fake.
Georgerunner wrote:
Long run 20-22 miles at 8:00. Remainder at between 6:00 and 7:30 . Used weekly club run as an unofficial personal fartlek session.
I'm not naturally talented (never made the county team), but I do regard myself as a 'runner', rather than a keep-fit type.
Thanks. That's strictly not the "high mileage alone" that the OP asks about. Weekly club run would count as one hard session a week.
HMArunner wrote:
Heck, I run under 3 hours with 35-45 mpw and no workouts. LOL Only progressions runs and progressive long runs.
Which is not high mileage alone. Or mileage alone.
I would say yes if you hit a few shorter races (5- 21k). A race every three (3) weeks would do it.
vladimir wrote:
I would say yes if you hit a few shorter races (5- 21k). A race every three (3) weeks would do it.
Which is not high mileage alone. The OP means high mileage, all runs slower than 3 hour marathon pace. Perhaps all runs at 8 minute mile pace? Never running at race pace.
I read his request as not doing workouts (tempo, intervals, pace, etc). Doing those shorter races would make it very doable. I don’t know if he/she is just sitting at the computer wondering or if they are thinking about trying that route to a sub 3:00. If that is the fact we would have to take an individual that had never trained before otherwise “workouts” they had done a week, month, year or decade ago would have an bearing. That would get us back to “ how long does training have an effect “? Thanks I now have food for thought as I head out on a Sunday morning,