The 800 and Emmanuel Korir 1:42.05!!! and Clayton Murphy 1:43.12!!! are BAAACK

I hope Murphy’s performance does not go unnoticed. 1:43.12 for an off year which involved injuries/surgeries back in the winter is quite the feat.

Not to mention the pressure from everyone claiming his best days were behind him when he was running slower indoors and early spring hence again due to injury.

Future healthy Murphy looks like a dominating force in not only the 800 but the 1500/mile as well.

NotToMention wrote:

I hope Murphy’s performance does not go unnoticed. 1:43.12 for an off year which involved injuries/surgeries back in the winter is quite the feat.

Not to mention the pressure from everyone claiming his best days were behind him when he was running slower indoors and early spring hence again due to injury.

Future healthy Murphy looks like a dominating force in not only the 800 but the 1500/mile as well.

Attempting the double is what derailed his last season. Stop it. Just let him go for the 800 and 1000 ARs and compete for medals. 3:36/3:52 is not gonna get him records or medals.

Attempting the double is what derailed his last season. Stop it. Just let him go for the 800 and 1000 ARs and compete for medals. 3:36/3:52 is not gonna get him records or medals.[/quote]

I meant he would have great success in both events at separate meets when he chose to. Example 800 past month, and the mile/1500 at Portland and Bowerman Mile earlier this year. Also perhaps permanently the 1500 in his late 20’s or 30’s.

For the time being absolutely stick with the 8

Not this again wrote:

NotToMention wrote:

I hope Murphy’s performance does not go unnoticed. 1:43.12 for an off year which involved injuries/surgeries back in the winter is quite the feat.

Not to mention the pressure from everyone claiming his best days were behind him when he was running slower indoors and early spring hence again due to injury.

Future healthy Murphy looks like a dominating force in not only the 800 but the 1500/mile as well.

Attempting the double is what derailed his last season. Stop it. Just let him go for the 800 and 1000 ARs and compete for medals. 3:36/3:52 is not gonna get him records or medals.

I meant he would have great success in both events at separate meets when he chose to. Example 800 past month, and the mile/1500 at Portland and Bowerman Mile earlier this year. Also perhaps permanently the 1500 in his late 20’s or 30’s.

For the time being absolutely stick with the 8

NotToMention wrote:

Not this again wrote:

Attempting the double is what derailed his last season. Stop it. Just let him go for the 800 and 1000 ARs and compete for medals. 3:36/3:52 is not gonna get him records or medals.

I meant he would have great success in both events at separate meets when he chose to. Example 800 past month, and the mile/1500 at Portland and Bowerman Mile earlier this year. Also perhaps permanently the 1500 in his late 20’s or 30’s.

For the time being absolutely stick with the 8

That I totally agree with. Some yearly 1500s and miles have definitely done him some good.

Destroy is a loose term. 1:42 and then 1:43 two days later for Amos is pretty good. Will be interesting to see these two go h2h with both of them fresh.

Also Korir must have closed a little quicker the final 200 today than Amos did in Monaco. IAAF says they were at 600 in 1:16 today but I think it was 1:15 in Monaco.

Someone in this crop of runners: Amos, Korir, or another Kenyan can break Rudisha'a record, but they are not doing it alone. Once you get near 1:42 flat, it gets real hard to improve and the improvements get smaller. From here you will see a few 10's of a sec improvement. The next person that breaks it will basically have to make a deal with the others saying if I don't get it then you will. A glorified time trial won't work at this point.

That’s not true. Even 1:45 guys can run 1:15 for 600.

800 is one of the easiest races to find rabbits for.

Taking them through the 600m mark isn't going to cut it. Someone needs to be a threat all the way through. See 2012 London 800 final as an example. Rudisha was not breaking 1:41 without Amos being on his ass.

wejo wrote:

This is shaping up for a great 800 year.

2 days after Amos ran 1:42.14 in Monaco, Emmanuel Korir destroyed him (Amos was 4th) and took back the world lead.

And let me emphasize how incredible this race was (as I was sitting at the finish line). Korir was approximately 49.9 at the Bell so closed out in 52.1 but with a 25.2 last 200m. So final lap of 52.1 going 26.9, 25.2. I have never seen a final 200m this fast in such a quick overall race. Not from Rudisha, Kipketer, nobody.

I can’t help but entertain the possibility that if Korir can keep it together and commit to the crucial 3rd 200m off a fast pace, he might legitimately challenge Rudishas WR.

What pressure? You really think Clayton Murphy is reading threads here to see what the trolls are saying? He's still young , smart and very talented . Good to see him running so well.

He also got married.

Salazar today -

4:14 Women's Mile Win (Hassan)

1:43 Men's 800m (Murphy)

3:35 Men's 1500m Win (Centro)

Was someone saying something about Scumacher?

KENYA On a roll!!!! Doha 2019 and Tokyo 2020 shaping up nicely. We are capable of topping the medal table in Doha.

Not this again wrote:

NotToMention wrote:

I hope Murphy’s performance does not go unnoticed. 1:43.12 for an off year which involved injuries/surgeries back in the winter is quite the feat.

Not to mention the pressure from everyone claiming his best days were behind him when he was running slower indoors and early spring hence again due to injury.

Future healthy Murphy looks like a dominating force in not only the 800 but the 1500/mile as well.

Attempting the double is what derailed his last season. Stop it. Just let him go for the 800 and 1000 ARs and compete for medals. 3:36/3:52 is not gonna get him records or medals.

Murphy was improving rapidly in the 1500, just like the 800. That's what bothers you. He'll be a force at both events.

wejo wrote:

This is shaping up for a great 800 year.

2 days after Amos ran 1:42.14 in Monaco, Emmanuel Korir destroyed him (Amos was 4th) and took back the world lead.

Murphy has come back well from surgery. And being the first clean runner across the line is another thing to be proud of as well.

GBnothingWithoutFarah wrote:

KENYA On a roll!!!! Doha 2019 and Tokyo 2020 shaping up nicely. We are capable of topping the medal table in Doha.

I agree. Now that the greenlight has been given to dope to play off the Kiprop mess, Kenya and Ethiopia will provide fantastic examples of what PEDs and talented people who are high responders can do.

It Will Happen wrote:

GBnothingWithoutFarah wrote:

KENYA On a roll!!!! Doha 2019 and Tokyo 2020 shaping up nicely. We are capable of topping the medal table in Doha.

I agree. Now that the greenlight has been given to dope to play off the Kiprop mess, Kenya and Ethiopia will provide fantastic examples of what PEDs and talented people who are high responders can do.

Yes, the IAAF has long planned to up the thresholds to create WR opportunity and improve the popularity of the sport, thus filling their pockets. Kiprop was a scapegoat to mask that.

But also athletics is being ruined by all these African age cheat dopers. Nobody wants to watch because these obvious cheaters always win. This sport is going to die because of these cheaters.

OOOOOK!!! Here we go, the racist vermin have now arrived with the doping song! Another thread ruined by this vermin spewing their toxic waste here. I guess coevett their leader, will reply soon.....RIP thread

You called?

I'm pleased for Murphy. Seems to get a lot of stick form Americans here considering he's still only 23. He looked really impressive today. Seemed to be about to lose 3rd place then manages to grit his way into 2nd at the line.

As far as Korir is concerned, looked fantastic. Lets hope his career isn't as erratic as that of his coach Paul Ereng.