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    • hard times
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 11:28AM - in reply to Jake77
      • hard times
      • Looks like from the tracker they didn't tell him until he got to mile 90. Now that sucks. There was really no reason for his crew to do it either, he was only a couple miles out of the aid station. They just saw him.

        I can tell you what, if this was Dakota Jones there would not be a DQ.
    • sorry not sorry
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 1:15PM - in reply to Jake77
      • sorry not sorry
      • Xavier broke a rule, admitted he broke it, and was disqualified for breaking said rule. That's how life works.

        His subsequent Facebook post complaining about it is pretty disappointing, as is all of his fans trying to excuse what he did (including trying to make it into an anti-French thing).
    • Rule Zero
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 1:50PM - in reply to Jake77
      • Rule Zero
      • The blame really lays on his crew.

        They should have known better. A runner needs to be able to trust them to keep him on track and making good decisions.

        As for a time penalty, it could be of strategic value for race leaders to accept a penalty in exchange for additional aid. This is not the sort of practice a race organizer wants to encourage.

        He’s still an amazing athlete and I think no less of him for it.
    • Can you really cheat if it isnt a race?
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 3:32PM - in reply to Rule Zero
      • Can you really cheat if it isnt a race?
      • Hardrock getting blasted for letting him run another almost 50 miles and 11 hours before telling him he was dq!! Then they told him he could enter their revered lottery to try and get in next year!!

        "Winner" who would have gotten 2nd by a couple hours runs an extra 4 miles and still beats next runner!!

        That being said
        RULES ARE RULES!!!!!!!!!
    • TheOhioState
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      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 4:25PM - in reply to Can you really cheat if it isnt a race?
      • TheOhioState
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      • If you receive 1/2 of an ice chip or a dram of water over 400 yards from an aid station at Hardrock, you are in violation and can be DQed.

        Way to police the sport, guys.
    • Don't get it
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 5:02PM - in reply to TheOhioState
      • Don't get it
      • I don't get why anyone would want to run this thing if they weren't from the area and or weren't on the bro level. The group is totally a circle jerk. They call themselves a "run" so they can get away with the event in the community and apease the park service then they do stuff like this as if it's a "race" and give outsiders the middle finger.
    • Scott Jurek was once good but not great.
    • Track is dead to me......
    • Gravy
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      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 7:23PM - in reply to Jake77
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      • Why would you need support in a 100 meter run? Unless this I'd 100 miles... in that case, walk on, bros!
    • zzzz
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      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 9:03PM - in reply to Excluded from the circle jerk
      • zzzz
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      • That ruined the race for me in terms of interest in the results. The rules are rules no matter what thing is just lame. They ruined the race, er "run".

        If something is inconsequential and not meant to be cheating, discretion should be used. Kind of like how the highway patrol doesn't pull over everyone going 1mph over the speed limit.
    • Dufas
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 9:46PM - in reply to zzzz
      • Dufas
      • Did someone snitch on him or did a race official see it? Seems anti-common sense to disqualify him over a little ice.
    • Htoo0
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 10:13PM - in reply to Dufas
      • Htoo0
      • I love to follow (and run) ultras but this was a real snoozefest. With so few runners, there wasnt much of a competition on either the mens or womens side.

        Just remember Xavier Thevenard reached 85 miles 3 hours and 12 minutes faster than anybody else in the "run".
    • Hounddogharrier
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      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/21/2018 10:24PM - in reply to Dufas
      • Hounddogharrier
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      • You can be sure if he was one of the locals there would be no dq. How stupid , you can’t be given water in a 100 mile race ??? They waited 55 miles because they thought their guy would pass him . When it was Clear he wouldnt they dq ‘ed him .
    • conspiracy crazies
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/22/2018 1:17AM - in reply to Hounddogharrier
      • conspiracy crazies
      • the conspiracy theories are ridiculous. They had to DQ him because someone photographed him (common around ultra races), and happened to catch him receiving aid. If he wasn't DQ'ed then the evidence would have ended up online, and they would get blasted for making an exception for an elite runner.
    • zzzz
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      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/22/2018 9:31AM - in reply to conspiracy crazies
      • zzzz
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      • conspiracy crazies wrote:

        the conspiracy theories are ridiculous. They had to DQ him because someone photographed him (common around ultra races), and happened to catch him receiving aid. If he wasn't DQ'ed then the evidence would have ended up online, and they would get blasted for making an exception for an elite runner.

        See the comments of this from 2015. Someone in the irunfar comments mentioned that they saw it on video, though I don't see it in this one. No DQ.

        https://youtu.be/YcvNTVdM92w
    • DrityXL
      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/22/2018 10:39AM - in reply to zzzz
      • DrityXL
      • Yeah, f-those guys for enforcing what few rules they have.
        C'est sans conteste une parodie de justice!
    • John Utah
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      • RE: Hardrock 100 leader DQ'd for receiving aid outside aid station 7/22/2018 11:02AM - in reply to Rule Zero
      • John Utah
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      • Rule Zero wrote:

        The blame really lays on his crew.

        They should have known better. A runner needs to be able to trust them to keep him on track and making good decisions.

        As for a time penalty, it could be of strategic value for race leaders to accept a penalty in exchange for additional aid. This is not the sort of practice a race organizer wants to encourage.

        He’s still an amazing athlete and I think no less of him for it.

        Right, blame the friends and family out there in the middle of nowhere working hard and not sleeping for zero compensation in support of their buddy running through the woods. Likely many of them sacrificed vacation days at work to do this (travel days, etc). Blame them?