Aussie Deng breaks almost 50 year old 800m record

ayyyyyyy wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

I only consider Aboriginals to be real Australians.

Great let's rewrite the "American" record books and only have Native American records.

This seriously is not funny. Wake up.

It's called satire on the "real American" nonsense around here. Relax. Wake up!

Coevett wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

I only consider Aboriginals to be real Australians.

The problem is you're not joking, are you?

I am actually. It's called satire, you should give it a try. When it comes to running, I don't care about a person's ethnicity or origin as long as they run fast. Nationalities do a great job of creating tribalism for petty conflicts, but a person is a person. Fans love to p!ss about with national record discussions, especially the racist's like Coevett, but I doubt the athletes really care that much.

Congrats to Joseph Deng on his Australian record! Here's to years of fast running!

vivalarepublica wrote:

ayyyyyyy wrote:

Great let's rewrite the "American" record books and only have Native American records.

This seriously is not funny. Wake up.

It's called satire on the "real American" nonsense around here. Relax. Wake up!

Coevett wrote:

The problem is you're not joking, are you?

I am actually. It's called satire, you should give it a try. When it comes to running, I don't care about a person's ethnicity or origin as long as they run fast. Nationalities do a great job of creating tribalism for petty conflicts, but a person is a person. Fans love to p!ss about with national record discussions, especially the racist's like Coevett, but I doubt the athletes really care that much.

Congrats to Joseph Deng on his Australian record! Here's to years of fast running!

Nice.

too bad most of them cant run.

IGF-1 lr3 .. the speed peptide . nothing it cant do .

finally took ages to reach aussie land with only sally pearson being of benefit thus far .

monaco track is illegal and this guy is doped . enjoy the illusion .

Nice wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

It's called satire on the "real American" nonsense around here. Relax. Wake up!

I am actually. It's called satire, you should give it a try. When it comes to running, I don't care about a person's ethnicity or origin as long as they run fast. Nationalities do a great job of creating tribalism for petty conflicts, but a person is a person. Fans love to p!ss about with national record discussions, especially the racist's like Coevett, but I doubt the athletes really care that much.

Congrats to Joseph Deng on his Australian record! Here's to years of fast running!

Nice.

No, the race was in Monaco, not Nice. Understandable mix up, they are just down the road from each other.

Partridge wrote:

So the Kenyans are holding 800m World/Africa record, European record, Asian record, and now Oceania record.

When will a Kenyan come to break the American record?

He's Sudanese not Kenyan...

Coevett wrote:

It's a shame that his coach, who is clearly one of the best in the world, is a believer in the Kenyan superiority myth, and handpicked TWO Kenyan refugee kids 'as the next Rudishas'

LOL :D

Please note who coached the the previous equal Australian record holder - Justin coached Alex Rowe for 9 years. Alex was a skinny, very Caucasian schoolboy who progressed to 1:44.40 in Monaco in 2014.

Subway Surfers wrote:

I'm pretty sure Peter Snell's time on grass was a way better performance.

I’m pretty sure Peter Snell has nothing to do with this thread because he’s not Australian or Joseph Deng. Long live #dengfever!

doyourresearch wrote:

Please note who coached the the previous equal Australian record holder - Justin coached Alex Rowe for 9 years. Alex was a skinny, very Caucasian schoolboy who progressed to 1:44.40 in Monaco in 2014.

So why didn't Alex progress after that? Isn't that around the time the coach took on Deng and Boll?

Coevett wrote:

doyourresearch wrote:

Please note who coached the the previous equal Australian record holder - Justin coached Alex Rowe for 9 years. Alex was a skinny, very Caucasian schoolboy who progressed to 1:44.40 in Monaco in 2014.

So why didn't Alex progress after that? Isn't that around the time the coach took on Deng and Boll?

Dunno. But he was out with a hamstring injury at the 2014 Commonwealth Games.

Nips and tatties wrote:

Coevett wrote:

It's a shame that his coach, who is clearly one of the best in the world, is a believer in the Kenyan superiority myth, and handpicked TWO Kenyan refugee kids 'as the next Rudishas'

LOL :D

They are both of Kenyan descent, or half (in the case of one), are they not? I doubt if anyone thinks they owe their success to being born in refugee camps that happened to be located across the border in the Sudan.

Coevett wrote:

Nips and tatties wrote:

LOL :D

They are both of Kenyan descent, or half (in the case of one), are they not? I doubt if anyone thinks they owe their success to being born in refugee camps that happened to be located across the border in the Sudan.

They’re both of South Sudanese descent. Pretty sure they owe their success to training hard and being talented, not being born somewhere. Where’ve you been?

PrZ wrote:

Coevett wrote:

They are both of Kenyan descent, or half (in the case of one), are they not? I doubt if anyone thinks they owe their success to being born in refugee camps that happened to be located across the border in the Sudan.

They’re both of South Sudanese descent. Pretty sure they owe their success to training hard and being talented, not being born somewhere. Where’ve you been?

+1

Or, dear Arthur, are you trying to defend the genetically gifted Kenyan myth, even if you have to make things up (as you do)? ;)

PrZ wrote:

They’re both of South Sudanese descent

Exactly, but then again so are the Kalenjin Kenyans

PrZ wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

I'm pretty sure Peter Snell's time on grass was a way better performance.

I’m pretty sure Peter Snell has nothing to do with this thread because he’s not Australian or Joseph Deng. Long live #dengfever!

Um, he broke Peter Snell's 1962 AREA RECORD, why don't people read what the thread is all about?

Subway Surfers wrote:

PrZ wrote:

I’m pretty sure Peter Snell has nothing to do with this thread because he’s not Australian or Joseph Deng. Long live #dengfever!

Um, he broke Peter Snell's 1962 AREA RECORD, why don't people read what the thread is all about?

Because the thread is about him breaking the 50 year old Aussie record. That’s literally the title of the thread. You’re the one who isn’t reading.

PrZ wrote:

Subway Surfers wrote:

Um, he broke Peter Snell's 1962 AREA RECORD, why don't people read what the thread is all about?

Because the thread is about him breaking the 50 year old Aussie record. That’s literally the title of the thread. You’re the one who isn’t reading.

But the OP literally mentions he broke the Oceania record too.

Nips and tatties wrote:

PrZ wrote:

They’re both of South Sudanese descent. Pretty sure they owe their success to training hard and being talented, not being born somewhere. Where’ve you been?

+1

Or, dear Arthur, are you trying to defend the genetically gifted Kenyan myth, even if you have to make things up (as you do)? ;)

Read more carefully Nips. I didn't say they owed their success to being Kenyan, I clearly implied that there are people who think their success is due to their Kenyan heritage and that's the issue.

I've already argued quite extensively how their success can be explained in an earlier thread and mentioned it again here - first they get funneled into running by their school gym teachers because of racist prejudices (and because likely they were crap at any other sport compared to their ozzie classmates) and then a top coach handpicks them out because he clearly was looking for the 'next Rudisha'.