Jager will NEVER break 8

But do you know anything about floors???

Probably more relevant since we are discussing minimum times. Just sayin..

If by never you mean on August 30th, in Zruich, you're probably right.

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

nothing new here

we already knew this

thanks

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

Nice try but you are obviously not the clever guy who used to use that name. He was the best.

Nike should do what they did with Kipchoge and put on a time trial for Jager. Rotating pacers, a lead car, and a fast track with smooth turns.

I could see 7:59.8 even.

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

In another forty or fifty years the next Jager will come along and you can live vicariously through him.

If the Monaco track is short for everybody else.

Why isn’t it short for Jager?

malmo wrote:

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

In another forty or fifty years the next Jager will come along and you can live vicariously through him.

GREAT POINT Malmo!

It’s Egun wrote:

If the Monaco track is short for everybody else.

Why isn’t it short for Jager?

His craving for sub-8 is so heavy it bends the surrounding space and creates extra distance.

malmo wrote:

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

In another forty or fifty years the next Jager will come along and you can live vicariously through him.

He's not that rare surely? A white steeplechaser who isn't afraid of Kenyans?

why wait? wrote:

malmo wrote:

In another forty or fifty years the next Jager will come along and you can live vicariously through him.

He's not that rare surely? A white steeplechaser who isn't afraid of Kenyans?

You may never see a better American steepler.

In 2008 Famiglietti ran something like 8:20 at an American meet, and the flotrack dudes were losing their minds that we had a guy with the A standard. They brought him in for an interview and they started chanting "track is back." He talked about how fearless he was, how he was going to take it to the Kenyans. And at the Olympics he did take the lead for about a lap; before getting totally dusted and finishing 13th of 15.

That's how rare a good American steepler is.

We've had a few good guys going back to the 80s. Brian Diemer, Henry Marsh. None were as good as Jager currently is. He's been among the top in the world since 2016, and in the conversation since the first time he ran the event in 2012.

You may never see a better American.

Globally speaking, sure we can name a couple good white guys over the last 30 years. But you can't count all the Kenyans who were close to 8:00 and won medals. Look at Paul Koech. He's one of the all-time greats, yet he struggled to make the Kenyan team, and only ever won one Olympic medal.

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

Perhaps the clock is running out on him now, but he was surely going to run sub-8:00 (and by 2-3 sec) in that Paris steeplechase where he fell on the homestretch a few years ago. He certainly had the form back then, and he’s not too old. So I wouldn’t count him out just yet.

He’s had a sterling career already, but it would be a shame if he doesn’t get the sub-8:00 mark. And it’s possible he won’t. But he was capable and EVERYONE knows it, whatever his pr ends up being.

Sub-2 2.0 wrote:

Nike should do what they did with Kipchoge and put on a time trial for Jager. Rotating pacers, a lead car, and a fast track with smooth turns.

I could see 7:59.8 even.

................and huge industrial size fans that are mounted on a truck and follow him around the track so he always has a tailwind. If they could make a track that was downhill that would help too.

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

I think he's only about 1 second and change away from proving you very wrong.

[quote]Devil Dog wrote:

[quote]why wait? wrote:

You may never see a better American steepler.

That's how rare a good American steepler is.

You may never see a better American.

Sounds a lot like a friend of mine from England who said Britain will never have a better 800 runner than Seb Coe looks like Max Burgin will make a liar out of him.

Same thing people said Norway would never have a better Female Marathoner than Grete Waitz then came Ingrid Kristiansen who ran faster (Though it could be debated who was better.

Same thing people said Bob Beamon's Long Jump Record would never be broken than Mike Powell Broke it.

They said a sub 4 minute Mile was impossible than Bannister did it, as have Hundreds if not Thousands (If counting 1500 Equivalents) since then.

In Track and Field they always say there will never be and eventually someone better comes along, I will give you it may take 10-20-30-50-or more years, but someone better always come along.

He's great, but he's also "probably doping." His lack of closing speed means he probably will never win a major championship. His PR and his secondary medals are going to be his legacy.

Les wrote:

He's great, but he's also "probably doping." His lack of closing speed means he probably will never win a major championship. His PR and his secondary medals are going to be his legacy.

The reason we may not see another Jager is because the guys who come along who can beat the record will probably focus on flats.

Jager's going Under 8:00 wrote:

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

I think he's only about 1 second and change away from proving you very wrong.

And a fraction of a second less than that from proving him very right.

Jager's going Under 8:00 wrote:

SPMBLNF wrote:

I’m an expert on ceilings, and he will never run faster than 8:00.00

I think he's only about 1 second and change away from proving you very wrong.

Actually, he’s only 45/100th of a second away from proving SPMBLNF wrong, per his Paris result.