parents who send their kids to "out of state" public universities

I know you're a troll, but I went to an out-of-state public school because they essentially offered me in-state tuition to go there. My home state's best public schools were too big and intimidating for me at the time, and the smaller public schools were lower quality.

Public schools value out of state applicants because they charge them full tuition and improve the school's profile and numbers by only accepting out-of-state students with higher achievement standards.

kyoto wrote:

have got to be some of the dumbest people (unless they're very rich). the ONLY possible exception is if your state lacks good public universities (the dakotas, delaware, some southern states, etc).

but lol just lol at some middle class new jersey family sending their precious child to the University of Wisconsin for $48,000 / year when Rutgers is right down the road for less than 1/2 the cost.

some of us got scholarships that made out-of-state schools the same tuition as in-state. Or even less

Almost every college has out of state students,.

It's a grass is greener on the other side, thing.

Public Ivy wrote:

kyoto wrote:

UVA and Berkeley are a cut above the rest of the publics.

I'd put Cornell on the same tier.

One of my high school classmates in New York state applied but was not admitted to the College of Agriculture & Life Sciences at Cornell. He was, however, admitted to the University of Pennsylvania but paid loads more money as the Cornell "Ag School" is one of the public colleges at Cornell. After graduating from Penn, he wound up back at a public school in New York state for medical school and has been a doctor for years now.

I do know several medical doctors who went to the Cornell Ag School as undergraduates.

Send your child on a 4 year vacation to the university of Hawaii .

Rutgers has the worst D1 TF/XC team probably on the entire east coast.. Its honestly a shame... Wouldn't be surprise if kids didn't want to end up there and chose to go else where with a few grants.

kyoto wrote:

have got to be some of the dumbest people (unless they're very rich). the ONLY possible exception is if your state lacks good public universities (the dakotas, delaware, some southern states, etc).

but lol just lol at some middle class new jersey family sending their precious child to the University of Wisconsin for $48,000 / year when Rutgers is right down the road for less than 1/2 the cost.

Couldn't you just send them to the state that they want to go to school in after they graduate high school and work for a year, establish residency, and then apply as an in state student and pay in state tuition?

Predictor wrote:

The initial question is one that has always been of interest to me. A kid from NJ goes to Penn State. A kid from Nebraska goes to Minnesota. A kid from Michigan goes to Iowa. A kid from Georgia goes to Alabama. It happens frequently and kids just don't seem to think about the fact that they are paying double.

Frequently, they don't pay double, or at all.

Many schools want out of state students to build up their quota numbers.

You pick up a poor half-black, half-Hispanic kid from the L.A. area- how many quota numbers does that fill in?

kyoto wrote:

have got to be some of the dumbest people (unless they're very rich). the ONLY possible exception is if your state lacks good public universities (the dakotas, delaware, some southern states, etc).

but lol just lol at some middle class new jersey family sending their precious child to the University of Wisconsin for $48,000 / year when Rutgers is right down the road for less than 1/2 the cost.

I went out of state to a public university. Tons of people do it. Tons of people also go out of state to expensive private universities that cost even more. What kind of idiotic post is this? Its like why do some people buy a car that cost $60K, when you can get one for $30K or less that also gets you from point A to point B. They do it because they prefer the better option in their mind/opinion and the value it has. You can spend your money (or obtain loans) anyway you choose.

What are the parameters you're using for this question? Are you thinking of an even level of Divisions? What about public vs private? Large vs Small? Your question is way too ambiguous, and I'm surprised no one has called you out on that just yet.

As for a simple illustrative example, D2 Grand Valley State University (yes I'm a Michigander) charges a tuition so much cheaper than its competitors across the lake that the influx of students from Chicago, Gary and the rest of NW Indiana is noticeable, but mostly from Chicagoans. Apparently, OP, not everybody is the dumbest person on Earth. Some people are just not able to afford INSTATE rates (such as a percentage of the population in Greater Chicago), which speaks to a larger problem than just wondering whether they're dumb or not.

I sent myself to an out of state public university. In-state tuition: app. $750/semester. Out-state tuition: app. $2250/semester. I only paid out of state tuition for one semester plus two summer school sessions.

Sorry to say but you are WRONG. UCLA is a better school then Michigan. UCLA provides better opportunities in a place worth living. Michigan is great but definately behind UCLA and UVA. Probably the 4the best public.

This has never made sense to me either. A major reason is student loans can be used to make up the difference because they are easy to get and anyway it's my life and I'll pay it back myself. Also the reason why these worthless for profit schools manage to stay in business.

kyoto has got to be the dumbest poster on this site.

Let me go back to will smith. West Philadelphia born and raised is where I spent most of my days. Now you kyoto are acting no good starting trouble in the neighborhood . This is where U of Penn is located. Private Ivy League School. Think Penn Relays. (Side note: I use to have a record and a Penn relays watch for winning) The jerk and his scandal were at PSU. It's located in university park of State College , Pa. Home of the Public State School Lions. Now go to the blackboard like Bart Simpson and write 100 times they are not the same school.

Mich Grad wrote:

Sorry to say but you are WRONG. UCLA is a better school then Michigan. UCLA provides better opportunities in a place worth living. Michigan is great but definately behind UCLA and UVA. Probably the 4the best public.

Both fine schools, but the SAT scores of incoming Michigan are materially better than those of incoming UCLA students. I'm fairly involved in the workings of one of the top public schools in the country, and all of our consultants tell us that Michigan is the gold standard of public schools (e.g., 50% out of state students, SAT scores, etc.). It's impressive. They're miles ahead of UVA, which is shocking to see because I always figured UVA was the top dog outside California.

Michigan sucks as a place to live compared to LA, but very few of these kids are staying in Michigan.

Most I know do a few things: Figure out what it takes to become a resident of that state while attending school, if possible, and do so; or get excellent financial aid such as an out-of-state waiver.

Sometimes it's good to get out of your comfort zone, suck as a kid going from rural Dakotas to California or Ohio and seeing a different world than just what he/she grew up with.

Oh boy, w here do I start: Penn State (Nittney Lions) is in rural Pennsylvania, Happy Valley, it is part of the Big 10 Conference.

The University of Pennsylvania (nickname Quakers, I believe) is in Philadelphia and in the Ivy League. So you wouldn't let your kid go to PENN because Philly is too dangerous, so he ended up at Temple, in the heart of Philly. I'm guessing you're joking as sarcasm doesn't come across well on the internet.

Penn State had the Sandusky scandal, not Penn.

Daveramsey wrote:

It pretty much doesn’t matter where you go. All flagship public universities are about equal. Are you really trying to tell me that University of Mississippi grads are significantly worse off than a graduate from SUNY Binghamton or University of Michigan? You’ll never get me to agree to that crazy arguement. Both of graduates will be able to land jobs earning about 45-60k.. just matters how much debt you want.

University of Mississippi. Early career pay: $45,700 Mid Career pay: $85,300 (Rank 581)

University of Michigan-Ann Arbor. Early career pay: $59,300 Mid Career pay: $104,600 (Rank: 158)

Companies have limited budgets and do national recruiting at the top schools.

Daveramsey isn't far off. There is a large correlation in the % of students majoring in STEM and higher salaries according to the data. Fewer students are majoring in STEM fields at the University of Mississippi. Also, the salaries are lower in the state of Mississippi than in Michigan.