1500m WR is now 20 years old!

no, not 300 wrote:

Coevett wrote:

More like 300m to go,

no, he passed PM with 350 to go. stop lying

Closer to 300 than 350. Maybe your vision is obscured by the EPO fumes coming out of El G's ass?

And you trolls stop lying about this being the 20th anniversary of the 1500m WR. The third anniversary of Nick Willis running 3:29.66 - shaving just 1/100th off of Crammy's mark that had stood for 30 years - takes place on Tuesday.

Say what you want about doping but this was a HUGELY EXCITING time in track with distance records getting smashed right and left, racing drama, El G, Geb, Komen, Tergat, Kipketer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyoRtYr8mdc

Gill Repeats wrote:

Say what you want about doping but this was a HUGELY EXCITING time in track with distance records getting smashed right and left, racing drama, El G, Geb, Komen, Tergat, Kipketer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyoRtYr8mdc

Really ironic that you make that comment and then 'as proof' post a video showing a near empty stadium.

Zat0pek wrote:

My default position is to disregard all major distance performances from about 1990-ish to 2004-ish. What an unbelievable joke and it drives me nuts when people praise or analyze performances in that window as though they are real.

I mean, I agree, but why stop at 2004? Things have gotten WORSE since then. Bekele, Kipchoge, Dibaba sisters, Centro, tons of random 2:04 'thon guys. Doping is everywhere.

Coevett wrote:

no, not 300 wrote:

no, he passed PM with 350 to go. stop lying

Closer to 300 than 350. Maybe your vision is obscured by the EPO fumes coming out of El G's ass?

And you trolls stop lying about this being the 20th anniversary of the 1500m WR. The third anniversary of Nick Willis running 3:29.66 - shaving just 1/100th off of Crammy's mark that had stood for 30 years - takes place on Tuesday.

You are never funny. Africans are faster than your white heros, doped or not. Deal with it.

A lot of letsrunners don't think El G was clean.

Coevett wrote:

And you trolls stop lying about this being the 20th anniversary of the 1500m WR. The third anniversary of Nick Willis running 3:29.66 - shaving just 1/100th off of Crammy's mark that had stood for 30 years - takes place on Tuesday.

Record was set 14/7/98 so 20 years from now

OvettCoeRyunJazy wrote:

Coevett wrote:

The only good thing about that WR is it had Ovett commentating on it live.

The Kenyan pacemakers only dropped out after 1400m. Back then, even pacemakers could go for 1400m at 3:26 pace.

Even if El G was clean, none of his times would have been possible without doped up training partners and pacemakers.

I have vid with Cram commenting, I should post it to youtube (maybe someone else has).

El G = cheat

No one has run faster than 3:27 clean, maybe not faster than 3:28 clean.

Maybe even 3:29 clean. ?

Kvothe wrote:

A lot of letsrunners don't think El G was clean.

Except rekrunner.

Kvothe wrote:

A lot of letsrunners don't think El G was clean.

I hope that was kinda obvious. Did you ride the short bus to school? He came from one of the dirtiest countries in the world. He dominated the epo era. Than as soon as half descent testing came about he retired.

SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:

so proud wrote:

great Hicham ran the last 350m alone. Hicham nr 1!!!!!!!!!! record will stand for 10 more years

Just give me a young USA-runner capable of 45- low 46 in the 400 ( body built like a miler/1500) and I will make him fly 3.24-3.25 over 1500 m in less than five years. And all done in a natural way without doping.

Well...then, just get on over to the States and start recruiting some young talent for your experiment.

I still love watching this race...LONG LIVE THE KING OF THE MILE!!

vivalarepublica wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Closer to 300 than 350. Maybe your vision is obscured by the EPO fumes coming out of El G's ass?

And you trolls stop lying about this being the 20th anniversary of the 1500m WR. The third anniversary of Nick Willis running 3:29.66 - shaving just 1/100th off of Crammy's mark that had stood for 30 years - takes place on Tuesday.

You are never funny. Africans are faster than your white heros, doped or not. Deal with it.

Hahaha, you are hilarious. You really don't care if your African heroes doped or not, do you? I guess you think it's justified as a form of payback for African slavery or some such.

comprehenda? wrote:

Coevett wrote:

And you trolls stop lying about this being the 20th anniversary of the 1500m WR. The third anniversary of Nick Willis running 3:29.66 - shaving just 1/100th off of Crammy's mark that had stood for 30 years - takes place on Tuesday.

Record was set 14/7/98 so 20 years from now

Crammy's lasted for 30 years until Willis broke it on the Monaco track (by 1/100th of a second).

Is Cram's record the longest lasting in athletics? I guess it depends if you think Kipketer and Rudisha were/are dirty. I think Kipketer was doped, but I still like to think Rudisha was clean. If that's the case, Rudisha broke Coe's record after 29 years? But here's the complicating thing - Coe was already the world record holder since 1979. So there is an argument that Coe just pips Crammy as the longest reigning world record holder.

Sports are entertainment. Fast times make track more entertaining. As long as they all race the same distance who cares about what they put in their body.

Coevett wrote:

comprehenda? wrote:

Record was set 14/7/98 so 20 years from now

Crammy's lasted for 30 years until Willis broke it on the Monaco track (by 1/100th of a second).

Is Cram's record the longest lasting in athletics? I guess it depends if you think Kipketer and Rudisha were/are dirty. I think Kipketer was doped, but I still like to think Rudisha was clean. If that's the case, Rudisha broke Coe's record after 29 years? But here's the complicating thing - Coe was already the world record holder since 1979. So there is an argument that Coe just pips Crammy as the longest reigning world record holder.

Out of all the sub 3:30s, I think Willis is the most likely to be clean. However, I would bet money that there’s at least one person faster than Willis who was clean. Who that person is, I have no idea. I discount el G and Kiprops times and there is a very strong argument against Lagat. What about kiplagat? What do you think about him?

I, along with many others on this site disagree with your views on Kenyans. However, I want to ask you about something else. In another thread, phantasy star claimed that the girl who won the 3k at world juniors could run 3:53, way faster than Houlihan, Muir, Hassan, kipyegon, etc. what do you think about that claim?

What's up with this? wrote:

SUPERIOR COACH JS wrote:

Just give me a young USA-runner capable of 45- low 46 in the 400 ( body built like a miler/1500) and I will make him fly 3.24-3.25 over 1500 m in less than five years. And all done in a natural way without doping.

Well...then, just get on over to the States and start recruiting some young talent for your experiment.

Well…..so far I have coached from a distance online and it works very good with ten international winners in just three years coaching. And you never know, maybe one of your young 45-low 46 guys at 400m will read this and would like to take on the challenge instead of staying in unknown group of runners. If you are that runner I talk about just contact me at :

- The Wizard -

Coevett wrote:

Hahaha, you are hilarious. You really don't care if your African heroes doped or not, do you?

Hahaha, you are hilarious. You really don't care if your European heroes doped or not, do you?[/quote]