Coevett wrote:
I recently took up running at the age of 47. I have the modest aim of competing in regional masters events and being competitive by the time I'm 50. Obviously regional masters running is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, not to mention in terms of financial rewards, but it still wouldn't occur to me to take peds. It would just render the whole thing pointless to me. I'm sure there are many elite athletes who despite the glory and financial rewards on offer would still feel like it was cheating or faking it if they took peds, even if they felt many of their rivals were taking them. You can only speak for yourself and your own dubious moral character.
Wow, Coedeppe wants to paint here a picture of himself of an ethically very high standing person. Hypocritical which is hard to beat.
The same person doesn't hesitate to discredit other humans in a really very, very bad manner. With notorious lying.
And this is a FACT, a pure fact which is not to deny, he has proofed this many, many times.
I don't know how often I have given him Aouita's progression. But Coedeppe is not willing to accept this and CONTINUES to change this with the only intention to support his points (Aouita is a bad cheater and his hero's Coe and Ovett are so much superiour in any way). It doesn't help at all if Aouita is suspicious or not, not by 1%.
Aouita has run 3:37.08, as far as I know, in his first serious track season (he might have competed on regional level before, but all the early articles which I have, say different, I also couldn't find any results even after I have tried all sources available to me - this means also African lists), at age 18 or 19 (this is not clear, since his date of birth is little bit uncertain). He also has run just very few big international "meeting" type races (where he has achieved his best times), yet more Championships like National, Arabic or Mediterranean Champs with usually slow finishing times. Yet he talks of Aouita as a 1:50/3:40 runner before his middle-distance breakthrough (has run 1:47 in three seasons). He has now changed that Aouita was a 3:45 runner until his mid twenties!! I also gave him more very detailed infos of Aouita's early progression (for example XC victory against Carlos Lopes in 1982). Yet he prefers to ignore this completely. And there are many more examples.
Just for clarification for the letsrun-morons: I'm not at all trying to argue that Aouita might have used PEDs or not. My only point is: staying to the facts is definitely better than changing them again and again (with probably the only intention to support your own point of few). Coedeppe is a proofed liar, he has done so many, many times.
This was adressed to him often, yet the only respond which I ever will get is a complete change of the subject (how stupid I am, that Aouita was a cheater and so on). But nothing to his constant changing of pure facts.
The argumentation of ex-runner always seems very plausible to me and I could agree with most of what he wrote. (I heavily disagree that he "human limit" is somewhere near 3:28. After just something like 50 years of scientific training for distance running "we" are definitely far away from reaching the limit. I'm absolutely sure that for a human like today it is POSSIBLE to run sub 3:20 without PEDs. But since this depends on so many variables, probably nobody will ever come close to something like a limit. When someone actually achieved something (for example running 1500m in 3:38 "clean"), how is it just possible this is the limit (or very close to it)? It's almost impossible.