Cross-Canada record attempt, 7200K - 66 days. Current record by Al Howie 72 days

Day behind wrote:

dbjared wrote:

For anyone wondering where he's at in relation to the record:

They have posted that Dave will get back on the road, tomorrow. How much or what pace he will be able to do, we don't know. At this point, he is 130 kilometers behind record-pace. Howie made Victoria in 23 days from MacGegor and that's including running from Nanaimo to Victoria. Dave is currently 130k short of MacGregor.

That's a full day behind the record. You can't make that back up. The record is out the window.

Not really a great comparison as different direction so what kind of distances Al was doing before that point.

Dave was 1.5 days behind his schedule which was 5 days shorter than Als record. But with that said after today’s news, the record is definitely off and my guess is unlikely to finish

Not a fair comparison also because Al finished quite early the last “day” & did the Nanaimo leg & didn’t post impossible numbers on 12-hour days etc. Plus Al ran even better in “races”, had a million times the experience, and brought along an experienced multi-day runner. These guys can’t even read a map, we have to post the town names for them.

Listen Riley,

Shut the holy hell up or go and confront the caravan.

I personally think you are the biggest pu**y in the history of these boards.

You really need a tune up.

I gotta say I've been a Jesse Riley fan forever. When I moved to South Texas, I was humbled to spy Don Winkley at races, and to remember all the tales I had read over the years over his adventures with Mr. Riley. (That crazy Australia run! Magic.) Jesse has been a true legend in the ultra community and has accomplished more that I could ever dream of. The races across America had me standing by my mailbox month after month for the updates in Ultrarunning. The Sri Chinmoy races. A multiday pedigree that few runners have come close to.

But, come on. We get it. You think the guy's cheating. I have no clue, other than to think you know a helluva lot more about multidays than me. But it seems like annoying people isn't going to win them over.

One thing you learn in ultras is pacing. Maybe it's time to let up a little, especially given that it seems like he's on a downward spiral and Al's record is in no way endangered?

Just wondering.

Sincerely (really),

a huge fan of yours.

This must be tough for stupid trolls, to watch this slow-motion tragedy end just the way we said it would. Now we’re laughing...

Don’t worry, Don Winkley has had a million choice words for me (if you’ve ever read his blogs). He’s told me to my face how disorganized trans am ‘92 was, even though he wasn’t there.

A million stupid trolls couldn’t get Dave a record that Al Howie built to last. No matter how many posts you try to hack, you have to answer the critics you trashed.

1) Why was this thread locked to new posts?

2) Can we have an update?

3) I don't hate ultra-running. I let Mr. Riley publish his piece because it's rare in modern society that someone will actually publish their name when they are writing/saying something critical about someone else. I didn't research his claims but given Riley's stature, I figured it was worthy of publication.

He seemed dumbfounded by the early totals and appears to have assumed they only could have been achieved via cheating. He appears to have been incorrect about the latter but correct about the former. The pace was unsustainable.

Looks like Proctor is stuck in a death spiral with fewer and fewer miles each day due to persistent pain from his back. Only 20 miles today and they are getting another physio to come out.

Any record looks impossible at this point.

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rojo wrote:

1) Why was this thread locked to new posts?

2) Can we have an update?

3) I don't hate ultra-running. I let Mr. Riley publish his piece because it's rare in modern society that someone will actually publish their name when they are writing/saying something critical about someone else. I didn't research his claims but given Riley's stature, I figured it was worthy of publication.

He seemed dumbfounded by the early totals and appears to have assumed they only could have been achieved via cheating. He appears to have been incorrect about the latter but correct about the former. The pace was unsustainable.

I don’t think the pace was unsustainable for Dave as it really wasn’t too fast compared with other recent attempts like Pete K and it wasn’t his legs that broke down but his back..maybe constantly running on side of highway with the flight camber affected his back, who knows

With that said, this was Dave’s first real transcontinental attempt after basically just doing “short” ultra races to this point. Looking doubtful he’ll finish now but seems determined to still do so regardless of record if he can sort his back out

jesseriley wrote:

This must be tough for stupid trolls, to watch this slow-motion tragedy end just the way we said it would. Now we’re laughing...

But you simply ended up sounding like a demented and angry man who trashed another’s integrity with no proof.

LRC is all about exposing cheats, but your performance on this thread was somewhat disgraceful.

I believe this thread was locked by trolls to prevent reality from being discussed!

I would be happy to continue discussing innumerable red flags, if necessary in a separate editorial.

I agree that this is strictly an appetizer, Dave could try again. Giannino set a longstanding record across America on his second try.

As I said, all we’ve seen so far are red flags, but I’m happy to continue dispensing specific examples. The disgrace lies with those who trash me without discussing anything actually run-related.

I find no record on the “duv” website that Mimi has done any of the races she claims.

Just made MacGregor, 4 days behind Al’s pace.

jesseriley wrote:

As I said, all we’ve seen so far are red flags, but I’m happy to continue dispensing specific examples. The disgrace lies with those who trash me without discussing anything actually run-related.

Come on...enough. Al’s record isn’t in danger so just drop it.

You say you have all these red flags but have yet to clearly say how Dave is cheating.

Red flag: anyone who doesn’t “believe” is crazy.

When we talk & listen, we learn. If you don’t want to learn, I don’t have a problem with it.

Tron wrote:

I don’t think the pace was unsustainable for Dave as it really wasn’t too fast compared with other recent attempts like Pete K and it wasn’t his legs that broke down but his back..maybe constantly running on side of highway with the flight camber affected his back, who knows

The back would have given him problems even if he was a marathoner or just a hobby jogger.

Red flag: proper pacing yields improving health as the run continues, as I noted in “Mobility As Instinct.”