Jim Walmsley/Western States has gotten more posts than all USA threads combined. Brojos remain silent.

Meh

Coach Cookie wrote:

This interest in ultra-jogging-walking just goes to show that this place is full of hobby joggers, that revel in the idea of being able to jog the paces that Walmsley iogs/walks.

I think most of the people with interest in ultra have an interest in many forms of running. That simple. It's great to see Rupp flying on a road course, and it's also fun to watch Jager blast a near 8 flat in the 3000SC, but it's also amazing to see someone battle it out with the elements and gnarly topography at the fastest speed possible.

It's kind of like people who love cycling in all forms will love track cycling, road time trials, and even the pro tours, but also enjoy watching downhill fat tire racing and cross country BMX. Of course, there's always going to be the narrow minded clown that only loves track racing and poo poo's BMX racing because they go 10-15mph instead of 30mph. Basically, some people can only see things out of narrow window.

Bottom line is that the best distance running talent in the World is not in ultra-jogging.

I mean, just look at Walmsley, a 29min 10k guy...

Coach Cookie wrote:

Bottom line is that the best distance running talent in the World is not in ultra-jogging.

I mean, just look at Walmsley, a 29min 10k guy...

While that may be true, it’s not really the bottom line. I don’t think you are smart enough to recognize the point of the thread. Your argument would be a better fit on the “Jim Walmsley is better than you” thread which actually relates to what you are saying.

GBohannon wrote:

I would also enjoy to read some coverage on Western States especially now that it is all I see generating any interest on the boards. Are you guys blind to this or simply ignoring it out of spite? I am not trying to be inflammatory; I am sincerely confused by your approach.

In retrospect, the Brojos greatly tarnish everything that they touch.

Let's consider that it's probably much better that they don't cover the ultra scene whatsoever.

We can get much better coverage from Irunfar, the UTMB site, numerous videos on youtube, and threads on here.

Coach Cookie wrote:

Bottom line is that the best distance running talent in the World is not in ultra-jogging.

I mean, just look at Walmsley, a 29min 10k guy...

Stop this kind of non-sense.

For someone never running on flat terrain and short races, 29min 10k is pretty strong.

He's one of the best at what he's doing and he never pretended to be an elite road marathoner or such.

The great Yuki Kawauchi almost blowed up at the end of a flattish ultra of 71k lately, this makes him a bad marathoner?

cnnbbcfox wrote:

Most of the posts are from people legitimately interested in the sport of ultra mountain running. There are idiots who can't stand the attention that ultra is getting (there are a few of obvious reasons why, such as no one paying attention to the runners that they have deemed gods for themselves) so they have to attack the ultra threads with hate, spite, and a lot of utter stupidity.

This is a sign of sanity. Who the f likes to see a lot of guys running 25 laps around a track. Very few outside the running world gives a sit.

Weird - I didn't see any sponsored Western States prediction contests on here and I didn't pay $70 for an annual subscription to watch ultras.

Coach Cookie wrote:

Bottom line is that the best distance running talent in the World is not in ultra-jogging.

No, they are doing stuff nobody cares about. Meanwhile, this is happening during ultra races:

Coach Cookie wrote:

Bottom line is that the best distance running talent in the World is not in ultra-jogging.

I mean, just look at Walmsley, a 29min 10k guy...

That's because it's not distance running. It's extreme distance terrain running. Murphy will crush Walmsley and Kipchoge in the 800, Kipchoge will crush Murphy and Walmsley in the Berlin marathon, Walmsley will crush Murphy and Kipchoge in the WS 100.

Another thought wrote:

I've contributed to a few of those threads and I really hope that LRC never covers any ultra race unless actual elite runners start running them. For now I hope that the mods start deleting all of the annoying ultra threads.

Yeah, I hope they don't cover NCAAs either. It is just a bunch of sub elite scrubs. If they were any good they would be pro already.

well,, wrote:

Coach Cookie wrote:

Bottom line is that the best distance running talent in the World is not in ultra-jogging.

No, they are doing stuff nobody cares about. Meanwhile, this is happening during ultra races:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkNjXM5Flpx/?taken-by=idanilssihttps://www.instagram.com/p/BjUJBirha3J/?taken-by=idanilssi

+1

The IOC has named ultramarathoning as an Olympic sport starting in 2024. Brojos aren't on the bus now, but if letsrun is still going a few years down the road, they will be.

Coach Cookie wrote:

Bottom line is that the best distance running talent in the World is not in ultra-jogging.

I mean, just look at Walmsley, a 29min 10k guy...

but coulnd't you say that about 10k guys vs. 400m and 200m guys. the 10k guys are only running that distance because they don't have 400m speed

Seven Sisters wrote:

Walmsley will crush Murphy and Kipchoge in the WS 100.[/quote]

You're out of your gourd if you think Walmsley would crush Kipchoge in the WS100. Kipchoge would destroy him. Kipchoge trains in Kaptagat, Kenya at 2337 meters elevation on rutted, hilly dirt roads. Walmsley trains in Flagstaff at 2130 meters elevation on paved and likely better maintained dirt roads and trails. Kipchoge runs 120 miles per week, Walmsley between 120-140. To say that Walmsley would have an advantage running on trails is delusional and a little bit racist as is the supposition that a white guy who trains in Flagstaff would be better suited to run in the heat than someone who trains 1 degree south of the equator in Africa. Walmsley would have a hard time beating the top 500 marathon runners in the world, let alone the GOAT. Accept the fact that you are in a niche sport that nobody cares about.

Bro head over to www.irunfar.com if you want to talk about ultra yogging events.

GBohannon wrote:

Rather than posting your 19th write-up on a track meet that very few people seem to care about, maybe a small blurb on Western States which has dominated the boards since Saturday?

Admittedly, I personally care more about USAs and appreciate your reporting. I am clearly in the minority though. I would also enjoy to read some coverage on Western States especially now that it is all I see generating any interest on the boards. Are you guys blind to this or simply ignoring it out of spite? I am not trying to be inflammatory; I am sincerely confused by your approach.

Patience is an ultramarathoning virtue wrote:

+1

The IOC has named ultramarathoning as an Olympic sport starting in 2024. Brojos aren't on the bus now, but if letsrun is still going a few years down the road, they will be.

Is this true? Do you have a link?

well,, wrote:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkNjXM5Flpx/?taken-by=idanilssi

i'd hit her

fatbody wrote:

Patience is an ultramarathoning virtue wrote:

+1

The IOC has named ultramarathoning as an Olympic sport starting in 2024. Brojos aren't on the bus now, but if letsrun is still going a few years down the road, they will be.

Is this true? Do you have a link?

No -- it isn't actually true. It is an april fools joke that caught me.

The truth is that Jim and his training partners paid a Public relations/marketing guy to pump up their western states participation as if it is bigger than life when in reality it's not. It's not a competitive race when you look at who is there. It seems big because of the media guy Myke aka Jim W boyfriend making vids and posting pics of 5 average runners running a weak event. It's lame they paid for publicity and even more lame none of these guys show up to any major events outside of ultra 50m to 100mi. If Jim is going to call himself goat he needs to stop blowing up at major championships and win against real talent. IMO