NOAH MF LYLES: 9.88 - Official Noah Lyles Appreciation Thread

So he is ducking the competition in the 200? What a joke! You heard it here first - this kid is D-O-N-E, DONE! Enjoy it while it lasted.

Sprinter question!

Baker's start was faster, but relatively noisier form, with more head and shoulder action compared to Lyles. His head was up maybe a stride or two before Lyles. Is all this actually bad, or just a different style of running or coaching? Or because he's simpler bigger and more muscular, applying more forces that result in more movement (Newton's third law). That being said, he's not as noisy looking as Bolt was at his worst, and it didn't seem to hold him back!

Lyles looks so smooth and efficient, esp for such a young age, and that's got to help for the 200.

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Before we all get over hyped on Lyles lets keep in mind his training group has had 3, 4, or is it 5 positive test athletes in the past 3-4 years. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Too many flashes in the pan in sprints of late from US. Brommel even still in the sport? Coleman has issues that are going to keep causing injuries.

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LetsSprint.com wrote:

Sprinter question!

Baker's start was faster, but relatively noisier form, with more head and shoulder action compared to Lyles. His head was up maybe a stride or two before Lyles. Is all this actually bad, or just a different style of running or coaching?

Lyles had a longer drive phase than Baker which allowed him to cook him in the last 40m of the race. Extending your drive phase is always helpful, if you can manage it, because we can only sustain an all out sprint for a matter of a few seconds. Everyone decelerates before 70-80m, but those who have held their drive phase will clearly decelerate less and actually appear to be accelerating past or away from the field. When someone pulls their head up early from a drive phase, or execute a frantic start that lacks a drive phase, they'll generally appear to burn out more quickly in the latter portions of the race. Baker PR'd, so it's not like he didn't run a great race. Lyles simply has greater top end speed and composure.

Lyles has been a phenomenon since he was a freshman in high school. He ran 20.71 as a sophomore in HS. He has steadily improved every year of his life, so the suggestion by other posters that he is doping shows only that they have not followed his career.

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JumpsDoctor wrote:

[quote]LetsSprint.com wrote:

Lyles has been a phenomenon since he was a freshman in high school. He ran 20.71 as a sophomore in HS. He has steadily improved every year of his life, so the suggestion by other posters that he is doping shows only that they have not followed his career.

Usain Bolt ran fast in HS as well, and e know what people say about him on these boards.

High schoolers of course would never use drugs. They are young, innocent, morally pure, and have the good judgement and impulse control for which adolescents are known.

webby wrote:

High schoolers of course would never use drugs. They are young, innocent, morally pure, and have the good judgement and impulse control for which adolescents are known.

I think Noah Lyles is a fair bit more mature than basically 99% of the men-children who post on this board. I really do not believe taking PED's has ever crossed his mind. He knows he can win clean. I think anyone who disagrees with that assessment is trying too hard to be a cynic.

I don't particularly suspect Lyles, but I can't remember the last time we had a sprint champion who didn't get caught doping. So it's fair to start with considerable skepticism about anyone who breaks 9.9, IMO.

The Cold Hard Truth wrote:

Noah Lyles 2016 ->2018.

Yeah, looks legit.

Could be doping.

Could also have grown up from 18-20. Bigger, stronger, faster.

Or did you fail to mature after 18 years old?

TBlaze wrote:

Before we all get over hyped on Lyles lets keep in mind his training group has had 3, 4, or is it 5 positive test athletes in the past 3-4 years. Things that make you go hmmmm.

Too many flashes in the pan in sprints of late from US. Brommel even still in the sport? Coleman has issues that are going to keep causing injuries.

Lyles is different. I never got excited by the other young sprint talents like Brommel, De Grasse of Canada or even Coleman that much. Although Coleman probably will be back when he gets over his injury issues.

Lyles has some extra quality though. He is special. I think it's his supreme confidence and ability to pull out wins.

5 career diamond league wins and a US title at 20 years old.

webby wrote:

I don't particularly suspect Lyles, but I can't remember the last time we had a sprint champion who didn't get caught doping. So it's fair to start with considerable skepticism about anyone who breaks 9.9, IMO.

Disagree, this one really fits in the "could be anything" category and that much has been obvious for a few years now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm usually the first to be skeptical of impressive performances, particularly sprints, but what he's achieved thus far is nothing more than I expected. Huge talent and, perhaps more importantly, still plenty of scope for improvement. I don't think he'll ever be a WR holder, but I think 9.70 and 19.30 is achievable for him. He seems solid as a rock menally also, I don't think big occasons will phase him