Also a stat which is irrelevant to the question asked.
This is his fastest time in a few years, that's a fact.
How has he managed to get back to running sub 9.90 times despite not achieving that the last couple of years? It's a legitimate question. Nobody denies he ran well in 2015, but it's 2018.
Mike Rodgers tells our own Jonathan Gault "you don't do your research"
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Here’s a stat for you Mike. Didn’t you accept a 9 month ban for doping back in 2012?
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GoDes wrote:
Here’s a stat for you Mike. Didn’t you accept a 9 month ban for doping back in 2012?
Lol, for some reason that was the first thing I thought of when I saw this thread. -
I dare someone to find a link that lists Rodgers as the all time record holder for most sub 10's in one year.
There should be a list somewhere that at least shows the second most in a year or who held this record before him.
Asafa Powell in #1 all time in a career with 97.
Rodgers is #5 with 39 times, one place ahead of Tyson Gay. Not too shabby.
https://michaelsportstats.com/2016/09/08/most-100m-races-under-10-seconds/
The 16 or 19 sub 10s in one year is still very impressive, especially if the best ever.
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find. -
NERunner053 wrote:
Gault does some truly impressive work keeping us up to date on American born runners. Perhaps he was confused about Rodgers' accolades because he isn't white and Gault specializes specially on people who look like him.
So he’s not kin to Willie Gault? Aw, man -
GoDes wrote:
Here’s a stat for you Mike. Didn’t you accept a 9 month ban for doping back in 2012?
Gault should have used that as his reason for dismissing the 2015 stats. Meaningless because of residual doping benefits. -
Pack it up boys, Rodgers was right though it's only 16 and not 19. Python can prove it in one line:
import collections, re, requests, pprint
pprint.pprint(collections.Counter([ p[34:65] + p[-5:-1] for p in list(sum([ re.sub('&[^;]*;', '.', requests.get('http:'+'//www'+'.alltime-athletics'+'.com/'+okno).text).split('\n') for okno in [ 'm_100ok.htm', 'm100mno.htm' ] ], [])) if p[15:17] == '9.' ]))
(top 19 all 10 or more shown for brevity below)
Counter({'Mike Rodgers 2015': 16,
'Asafa Powell 2008': 15,
'Asafa Powell 2006': 13,
'Asafa Powell 2009': 13,
'Mike Rodgers 2013': 13,
'Justin Gatlin 2013': 12,
'Usain Bolt 2008': 11,
'Maurice Greene 1999': 11,
'Trayvon Bromell 2015': 11,
'Usain Bolt 2009': 10,
'Tyson Gay 2009': 10,
'Yohan Blake 2012': 10,
'Asafa Powell 2011': 10,
'Asafa Powell 2015': 10,
'Yohan Blake 2011': 10,
'Ato Boldon 1998': 10,
'Maurice Greene 2004': 10,
'Frank Fredericks 1997': 10,
'Maurice Greene 1998': 10,
And here's the list of just wind-legal performances for completeness where Rodgers is tied with Powell (top 28 all 8 or more):
Counter({'Asafa Powell 2008': 15,
'Mike Rodgers 2015': 15,
'Asafa Powell 2006': 12,
'Asafa Powell 2009': 12,
'Usain Bolt 2008': 11,
'Yohan Blake 2012': 10,
'Asafa Powell 2015': 10,
'Justin Gatlin 2013': 10,
'Asafa Powell 2011': 9,
'Maurice Greene 1999': 9,
'Asafa Powell 2004': 9,
'Frank Fredericks 1997': 9,
'Mike Rodgers 2013': 9,
'Usain Bolt 2009': 8,
'Tyson Gay 2009': 8,
'Asafa Powell 2007': 8,
'Justin Gatlin 2014': 8,
'Justin Gatlin 2012': 8,
'Maurice Greene 2001': 8,
'Yohan Blake 2011': 8,
'Christian Coleman 2017': 8,
'Maurice Greene 1997': 8,
'Ato Boldon 1998': 8,
'Maurice Greene 2004': 8,
'Nesta Carter 2013': 8,
'Maurice Greene 1998': 8,
'Akani Simbine 2017': 8,
'Frank Fredericks 1998': 8, -
Star wrote:
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find.
Lets face it, it's not the sort of stat you go looking for before interviewing someone. -
Star wrote:
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find.
It's not hard to find at all.
Go here: http://www.alltime-athletics.com/m_100ok.htm
Copy all of the times faster than 10.00 > paste into Excel > text-to-columns > create a field for "year" > Pivot Table with row labels of "Year" and "Time" and count as the value. Should take no longer than 2 minutes.
P.S. Rodgers actually only shares the record for wind-legal sub 10s in a calendar year with Powell. -
Who gives a rats arse about Rodgers stat anyway? wrote:
Star wrote:
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find.
Lets face it, it's not the sort of stat you go looking for before interviewing someone.
Agreed. Sub 10 is kind of like sub 4 in the mile in that if you're a pro nowadays, excepting extreme bad weather you're basically expected to break it every race. So the question of 'who broke 10 the most in a year' is more like 'who races the same event the most often' which is arguably a bad thing for training -- obviously it applies less to sprinting than distance running but all that travel and racing probably takes a toll at the end of the season, which is why Bolt raced so sparingly at times. -
Jaded fabrication wrote:
NERunner053 wrote:
Gault does some truly impressive work keeping us up to date on American born runners. Perhaps he was confused about Rodgers' accolades because he isn't white and Gault specializes specially on people who look like him.
Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
I can’t tell if this is Gault or his mom. -
Lol, Gault has to be one of the best stat guys in track and field, as proven by his repeated high placings in the prediction contests. Maybe Rodgers should do his research.
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Dijon Gebremustard wrote:
Who gives a rats arse about Rodgers stat anyway? wrote:
Star wrote:
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find.
Lets face it, it's not the sort of stat you go looking for before interviewing someone.
Agreed. Sub 10 is kind of like sub 4 in the mile in that if you're a pro nowadays, excepting extreme bad weather you're basically expected to break it every race. So the question of 'who broke 10 the most in a year' is more like 'who races the same event the most often' which is arguably a bad thing for training -- obviously it applies less to sprinting than distance running but all that travel and racing probably takes a toll at the end of the season, which is why Bolt raced so sparingly at times.
Lol no sub 10 is not like sub 4. 10.00 is still very tough, if you've watched the DL this year you'd see that by no stretch of the imagination does every sprinter break 10 every outing.
I think Asafa Powell has nearly 100 career sub 10s and it's an extremely impressive stat. -
I can't help but think that it's only a matter of time before this guy gets popped for PEDs again
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ex-runner wrote:
Dijon Gebremustard wrote:
Who gives a rats arse about Rodgers stat anyway? wrote:
Star wrote:
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find.
Lets face it, it's not the sort of stat you go looking for before interviewing someone.
Agreed. Sub 10 is kind of like sub 4 in the mile in that if you're a pro nowadays, excepting extreme bad weather you're basically expected to break it every race. So the question of 'who broke 10 the most in a year' is more like 'who races the same event the most often' which is arguably a bad thing for training -- obviously it applies less to sprinting than distance running but all that travel and racing probably takes a toll at the end of the season, which is why Bolt raced so sparingly at times.
Lol no sub 10 is not like sub 4. 10.00 is still very tough, if you've watched the DL this year you'd see that by no stretch of the imagination does every sprinter break 10 every outing.
I think Asafa Powell has nearly 100 career sub 10s and it's an extremely impressive stat.
773 wind legal sub 10s ever. 5000+ sub 4:00s. This isn’t even considering the fact that the 100 is raced more frequently than the mile and the 5000+ number doesn’t include 1500 equivalents.
And it is insane that Asafa accounts for more than 10% of all sub 10.00s -
Hodl gang wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
Dijon Gebremustard wrote:
Who gives a rats arse about Rodgers stat anyway? wrote:
Star wrote:
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find.
Lets face it, it's not the sort of stat you go looking for before interviewing someone.
Agreed. Sub 10 is kind of like sub 4 in the mile in that if you're a pro nowadays, excepting extreme bad weather you're basically expected to break it every race. So the question of 'who broke 10 the most in a year' is more like 'who races the same event the most often' which is arguably a bad thing for training -- obviously it applies less to sprinting than distance running but all that travel and racing probably takes a toll at the end of the season, which is why Bolt raced so sparingly at times.
Lol no sub 10 is not like sub 4. 10.00 is still very tough, if you've watched the DL this year you'd see that by no stretch of the imagination does every sprinter break 10 every outing.
I think Asafa Powell has nearly 100 career sub 10s and it's an extremely impressive stat.
773 wind legal sub 10s ever. 5000+ sub 4:00s. This isn’t even considering the fact that the 100 is raced more frequently than the mile and the 5000+ number doesn’t include 1500 equivalents.
And it is insane that Asafa accounts for more than 10% of all sub 10.00s
I totally agree that IAAF points-wise sub-10 is much harder to accomplish -- but that's not my point. You have to consider that on the international circuit a lot of 1500s / miles end up tactical which skews the times slower, while there's no such thing as a "tactical" 100. So even though sub-4 is WAY easier to accomplish technically, the fact that there's *only* about five times as many sub 4s is kind of incredible when you think about it especially when you compare to the number of pro sprinters.
My point was that recently, breaking 10 is not that special for a pro unless you're young or not American / Jamaican, and neither is the question of who ran the most sub-10s in a year except as footnote trivia. -
Dijon Gebremustard wrote:
Hodl gang wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
Dijon Gebremustard wrote:
Who gives a rats arse about Rodgers stat anyway? wrote:
Star wrote:
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find.
Lets face it, it's not the sort of stat you go looking for before interviewing someone.
Agreed. Sub 10 is kind of like sub 4 in the mile in that if you're a pro nowadays, excepting extreme bad weather you're basically expected to break it every race. So the question of 'who broke 10 the most in a year' is more like 'who races the same event the most often' which is arguably a bad thing for training -- obviously it applies less to sprinting than distance running but all that travel and racing probably takes a toll at the end of the season, which is why Bolt raced so sparingly at times.
Lol no sub 10 is not like sub 4. 10.00 is still very tough, if you've watched the DL this year you'd see that by no stretch of the imagination does every sprinter break 10 every outing.
I think Asafa Powell has nearly 100 career sub 10s and it's an extremely impressive stat.
773 wind legal sub 10s ever. 5000+ sub 4:00s. This isn’t even considering the fact that the 100 is raced more frequently than the mile and the 5000+ number doesn’t include 1500 equivalents.
And it is insane that Asafa accounts for more than 10% of all sub 10.00s
You have to consider that on the international circuit a lot of 1500s / miles end up tactical which skews the times slower, while there's no such thing as a "tactical" 100.
1) how many races per year turn “tactical” (literally every race is tactical) enough that guys otherwise capable of breaking 4 end up running slower?
2) Even if above is a significant number, there are fewer miles contested each year than 100s, a portion of those races are slow, yet there are still many times more sub 4s than sub 10s! Doesn’t that support the argument that sub 4 is in fact less difficult to attain and less rare than sub 10? -
Hodl gang wrote:
Dijon Gebremustard wrote:
Hodl gang wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
Dijon Gebremustard wrote:
Who gives a rats arse about Rodgers stat anyway? wrote:
Star wrote:
But have to cut Gault some slack for "not doing his research" when the research on that stat is hard to find.
Lets face it, it's not the sort of stat you go looking for before interviewing someone.
Agreed. Sub 10 is kind of like sub 4 in the mile in that if you're a pro nowadays, excepting extreme bad weather you're basically expected to break it every race. So the question of 'who broke 10 the most in a year' is more like 'who races the same event the most often' which is arguably a bad thing for training -- obviously it applies less to sprinting than distance running but all that travel and racing probably takes a toll at the end of the season, which is why Bolt raced so sparingly at times.
Lol no sub 10 is not like sub 4. 10.00 is still very tough, if you've watched the DL this year you'd see that by no stretch of the imagination does every sprinter break 10 every outing.
I think Asafa Powell has nearly 100 career sub 10s and it's an extremely impressive stat.
773 wind legal sub 10s ever. 5000+ sub 4:00s. This isn’t even considering the fact that the 100 is raced more frequently than the mile and the 5000+ number doesn’t include 1500 equivalents.
And it is insane that Asafa accounts for more than 10% of all sub 10.00s
You have to consider that on the international circuit a lot of 1500s / miles end up tactical which skews the times slower, while there's no such thing as a "tactical" 100.
1) how many races per year turn “tactical” (literally every race is tactical) enough that guys otherwise capable of breaking 4 end up running slower?
2) Even if above is a significant number, there are fewer miles contested each year than 100s, a portion of those races are slow, yet there are still many times more sub 4s than sub 10s! Doesn’t that support the argument that sub 4 is in fact less difficult to attain and less rare than sub 10?
I think we're in agreement here. Rather than looking at the technically difficulty I was more referring to the sentiment. Meanwhile nine guys who don't have the most-sub10s-in-a-year record are all lined up on the USATF final start line right now while Rogers is sitting in the stands. -
*7 guys
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Was he In the final... nope. So do ya research on that mike
