"I personally don't believe I should be a finalist for Bowerman" - Sydney McLaughlin

My favorite part is that she corrected the use of you're/your. Glad to see such attention to grammar.

I Chose D2 wrote:

Sesamoiditis wrote:

Why do they even have awards like this in track and field? Why should a 400 hurdler be compared to a 10k runner or a shot putter?

Good point. Imagine trying to compare a QB and a linebacker to determine the best football player. An award like that would never make sense.

True 'nuff, but...

I Chose D2 wrote:

Sesamoiditis wrote:

Why do they even have awards like this in track and field? Why should a 400 hurdler be compared to a 10k runner or a shot putter?

Good point. Imagine trying to compare a QB and a linebacker to determine the best football player. An award like that would never make sense.

Isn't that what the Heisman Trophy does?

Scorpion_runner wrote:

Those other athletes need shut the fock up..

My biggest fear for her is that she could turn into Lolo Jones ...Lolo was actually talented as hell, but the push back that she got from her peers and from the public was just way over the top. She was basically ostracized, because a lot of people were jealous of her.

I'm starting to see that same crap being given to Syd.

That hurdles situation cause me to root against Dawn Harper Nelson every race for the past decade. Before she retires I hope she hits every hurdle and tears every ligament. If that is slightly overboard, no apologies.

Those fellow 100 hurdlers circa 2008 and 2012 were the lowest class group I have ever seen in this sport, and I can remember back to Mexico City 1968 as a third grader.

Sydney is going to get the nod, whenever remotely close. If fellow competitors don't understand that they are monumentally clueless. Do they really think some committee is scrutinizing every result, minus any human element?

It reminds me of Michelle Wie winning several awards including an ESPY as best female golfer. Granted, she did win twice that year including the US Open but the haters on golf message boards were all over it. I laughed at them for trying to pretend it wasn't a given, considering Michelle's popularity and name recognition.

I'm sorry, but what else is wishing terrible injury upon someone you don't know other than extremely "low class?"

What's the point? wrote:

Sesamoiditis wrote:

Why do they even have awards like this in track and field? Why should a 400 hurdler be compared to a 10k runner or a shot putter?

Agreed. Because the comparison is so different, Cheserek never won it, which demonstrates how frivolous the whole award is.

And Chez not winning is the same reason why Karissa couldn't even touch the finals. Distance runners constantly getting overlooked. She broke, in my opinion, the hardest indoor distance record, the 3k, in 8:41 (held by 4x global medallist and world champ Jenny Simpson). Doubles indoors, running from the front both times. Clocks 4:27 in the mile and splits 4:25 at SEC's DMR showing she has range. NCAA leading times in 3k, 5k. Just over a month after splitting a 4:25 1600m, goes out to Stanford and runs a 32:00, top 10 all time. Crushes the competition at NCAA Regionals in 32:14, 15:19 with fast last laps. Loses the 10k, not even her main event, then comes back and crushes the field in the 5k on tired legs beating 2 fresh 15:20 girls in Kurgat and Fraser + Stanford winner Burdon.

Everyone makes an argument for Hobbs being the 3rd person if Sydney wasn't picked, but Hobbs won the 60, 100, and 4x1. Same 3 titles as Karissa BUT one of those titles was a really. You shouldn't get the nod for having fast teammates. And the problem is Hobbs never took a run at the 200. In my opinion if you're a short sprinter and you want to be considered for the Bowerman you need the 100 and 200. Christian Coleman won last year, but he doubled. Hobbs never even tried to double, her specialty is the 60m and 100m for all we know. Karissa is good from mile to 3k to 5k to 10k.

What About The Heisman? wrote:

I Chose D2 wrote:

Good point. Imagine trying to compare a QB and a linebacker to determine the best football player. An award like that would never make sense.

Isn't that what the Heisman Trophy does?

This post

Your head

NC Runner 34 wrote:

What's the point? wrote:

Agreed. Because the comparison is so different, Cheserek never won it, which demonstrates how frivolous the whole award is.

And Chez not winning is the same reason why Karissa couldn't even touch the finals. Distance runners constantly getting overlooked.

I completely agree that Ches should have won, possibly multiple times. But the fact Levins won with no indoor titles shows how much the emphasis is on outdoors and name recognition from the NCAA meet. Plus they love going to a graduating athlete which is why they always denied Ches until he couldn't have a senior outdoor season. What are odds Sydney got the nom since she announced she was going pro?

any details on the 'evidence/proof of corruption in sport' claims in the tweet/twats ?

Ches dominated the distances, but he didn't put up big times. He always ended up being on the ballot against people who dominated their event AND broke records.

polevaultpower wrote:

Ches dominated the distances, but he didn't put up big times. He always ended up being on the ballot against people who dominated their event AND broke records.

3:36 1500m and 13:18 5k as a freshman, 7:40 3k as a junior, 3:52 mile breaking the collegiate record as a senior. All everyone wants is fast times. Considering how fast he ran FR and the fact that he probably planned on staying all 4 years, I imagine Andy Powell didn't want to burn him out by going for records 3 times a season.

I get your argument because it is a year to year basis, but he certainly should have won his junior year

I agree with her that she doesn't deserve an award for collegiate athletes. The way she spells, she shouldn't have even been given a high school diploma.

. . . but she could write for LRC!

NOP Skeptic wrote:

polevaultpower wrote:

Ches dominated the distances, but he didn't put up big times. He always ended up being on the ballot against people who dominated their event AND broke records.

3:36 1500m and 13:18 5k as a freshman, 7:40 3k as a junior, 3:52 mile breaking the collegiate record as a senior. All everyone wants is fast times. Considering how fast he ran FR and the fact that he probably planned on staying all 4 years, I imagine Andy Powell didn't want to burn him out by going for records 3 times a season.

Oh I agree that his coaches were smart. He had tough competition for the Bowerman!