She’s gonna end up with a guy half her age just wait the writings on the wall
She’s gonna end up with a guy half her age just wait the writings on the wall
Making $hit up wrote:
Ehhh wrote:
The fuq?
She was NCAA champ in 3,000 5,000 and XC before Saladbar.
Please don't let facts cloud the matter. Thanks.
Being an NCAA champ is not a "career". Unless you build on that promise, nobody cares much.
Runnergrl wrote:
I do not hate anyone. I dislike people who act unprofessionally. I feel that Kara could of handled things better with the press regarding Galen and NOP. That’s it.
If you are under the age of 10, I apologize, but otherwise, by this point in your life you should know that the expresssion is could’ve as in could have.
Garanimals wrote:
Runnergrl wrote:
I do not hate anyone. I dislike people who act unprofessionally. I feel that Kara could of handled things better with the press regarding Galen and NOP. That’s it.
If you are under the age of 10, I apologize, but otherwise, by this point in your life you should know that the expresssion is could’ve as in could have.
Garanimals wrote:
Runnergrl wrote:
I do not hate anyone. I dislike people who act unprofessionally. I feel that Kara could of handled things better with the press regarding Galen and NOP. That’s it.
If you are under the age of 10, I apologize, but otherwise, by this point in your life you should know that the expresssion is could’ve as in could have.
Language, written and spoken, is always changing, evolving, and adapting, that is the case here.
So fück off, that never changes. :)
Runnergrl wrote:
God I hate that interview. She should of just declined to talk. She sounds so bitter.
Again you don’t hear all that trash talking from Jordan Hasey. Or Galen Rupp. They never say anything bad a bout anyone.
i was so happy that she didn't make the olympic team, she is bad for our sport. that interview is a perfect example.
she really just needs to go away, nobody even cares about her anymore
Young runners now don't really know who Kara is, they like Abbey D'Agostino, Desi, Emma Coburn, Shalane, Frerichs, Simpson, etc. now
Runnergrl's Dad. wrote:
Garanimals wrote:
If you are under the age of 10, I apologize, but otherwise, by this point in your life you should know that the expresssion is could’ve as in could have.
Garanimals wrote:
If you are under the age of 10, I apologize, but otherwise, by this point in your life you should know that the expresssion is could’ve as in could have.
Language, written and spoken, is always changing, evolving, and adapting, that is the case here.
So fück of, that never changes. :)
I changed it for you.
Runnergrl's Dad. wrote:
Garanimals wrote:
If you are under the age of 10, I apologize, but otherwise, by this point in your life you should know that the expresssion is could’ve as in could have.
Language, written and spoken, is always changing, evolving, and adapting, that is the case here.
So fück off, that never changes. :)
You had no idea that it wasn’t “could of” did you? Now you can use the expression correctly and get your self a job some day.
You are correct. I get sloppy when I use my phone.
Runnergrl wrote:
You are correct. I get sloppy when I use my phone.
So I have heard...
Garanimals wrote:
You had no idea that it wasn’t “could of” did you?
WTF?
When will you get drunk next and delete more stuff?
Many NCAA champs did nothing after wrote:
Making $hit up wrote:
Please don't let facts cloud the matter. Thanks.
Being an NCAA champ is not a "career". Unless you build on that promise, nobody cares much.
Back again. Kara did not make enough as a pro-runner to live in a million dollar house because she won a pair of NCAA titles. She owes it to Salazar, who coached her from late 2004 to late 2011. I cut and pasted her wikipedia page history. Look what happened between 2005 and 2011.
Runner's World had a puff piece about the Gouchers and how much they loved Salazar about 10 years ago. I wish I could find it.
The truth, courtesy of wikipedia:
College
As a runner for the University of Colorado, Goucher broke out in 2000, becoming the NCAA Outdoor Champion in 3000 m and 5000 m, the NCAA Cross Country Champion, and also a 5000 m Olympic Trials Finalist (eighth). She graduated from the University of Colorado in 2001.
Professional
After college Goucher battled injuries for several years, but then came back strong in 2006. After finishing second in the 5K at the USATF Outdoor Championships in 2006, she set PRs at all distances on the international circuit, running the World “A” Standard in the 1500 m, 5000 m, and 10000 m. She finished third in 3000 metres at the 2006 IAAF World Cup in a new personal best time of 8:41.42. Her 3k time led the nation and her 10k time ranked her as the 2nd fastest American woman of all-time. At the 2007 IAAF World Championships in Osaka, Japan she won the bronze medal in the women's 10,000 m event.
In September 2007, she won the Great North Run in 1:06:57, the fastest woman's half-marathon time of the year, setting a new American best time[6] at the distance and beating marathon world record-holder Paula Radcliffe, on the latter's comeback from pregnancy and injury.[7] The half-marathon was Goucher's first competitive race longer than 10k.
Goucher kicked off 2008 with a win in the prestigious Millrose Games mile with a personal record of 4:36:03. At the 2008 Prefontaine Classic track meet in Eugene, Oregon, USA, Goucher ran the 5000 m, the same race as the World Record attempt by Meseret Defar. Goucher ran well to place third behind Defar and Kenyan Vivian Cheruiyot in her second fastest ever time of 14:58.10 minutes.
Goucher was a member of the Nike Oregon Project, a project designed to improve standards in American distance running. There she trained with fellow athletes Galen Rupp, her husband Adam Goucher, Josh Rohatinsky, and Amy Yoder Begley.
Goucher raced in the USATF Championships and Olympic Trials on June 27, 2008, in the 5000 m and the 10,000 m. The championships were held at Hayward Field, Eugene, Oregon. Goucher already had the Olympic A Standard, but achieved it again, recording 31:37.72 at 10,000 m, finishing second behind American record-holder Shalane Flanagan's 31:34.81. In the 5000 m, Goucher won her semi final heat with a time of 15:32.32, and won the final race with a time of 15:01.02.[8] Goucher competed in the Beijing 2008 Summer Olympics 10,000 m final where she placed tenth with a personal best time of 30:55.16, and the 5000 m where she placed ninth with a time of 15:49.39.
Goucher made her marathon debut at the New York City Marathon on November 2, 2008.[9] She finished in third place in a time of 2:25:53, becoming the first American on the podium since Anne Marie Lauck was third in 1994. Goucher was chosen as the 2008 Road Runner of the Year in the Open Female division by the Road Runners Club of America.
The next year, she won the 2009 Lisbon Half Marathon,[10] and placed third in the 2009 Boston Marathon in a time of 2:32:25. She finished tenth in the marathon at the 2009 World Championships in Athletics, with a time of 2:27:48.
Goucher became pregnant in early 2010 and took a season away from competition as a result.[11] Following the birth of her child, Colt, she returned to competition at the Arizona Half Marathon in January 2011, and finished as the runner-up behind Madaí Pérez.[12] At the 2011 New York City Half Marathon, she placed third with a time of 1:09:03 hours.[13]
In April 2011, Goucher returned to marathoning at the 2011 Boston Marathon, where she placed fifth with a time of 2:24:52 hours, setting a new personal best by a minute. She was runner-up to Shalane Flanagan over 10,000 m at the 2011 USA Outdoor Track and Field Championships and later ran in the event at the 2011 World Championships in Athletics, where she finished 13th overall. In December, she competed at the inaugural Miami Beach Half Marathon and was again second behind Flanagan.[14]
Goucher qualified for the 2012 Summer Olympics by placing third at the U.S. Olympic marathon trials on January 14, 2012 in Houston, finishing with a time of 2:26:06.[15] She came third at the New York Half Marathon that March, running a time of 1:09:12 hours.[16]
Goucher placed 11th in the 2012 Summer Olympics with a time of 2:26.07.[17]
She returned to the 2013 Boston Marathon on April 15, placing 6th with a time of 2:28:11. The event would later be disrupted by a pair of consecutive explosions near the finish line, killing three spectators and injuring over 180 others. At the time of the explosions, she was resting in her hotel room with her family, the blasts close enough to shake the windows to their room.[18][19]
Kara Goucher is one of 7 women living in the United States including Deena Kastor, Kim Smith, Shalane Flanagan, Betsy Saina, Sally Kipyego and Molly Huddle to have run a 10 km race under 31 minutes. Only 71 women have ever run under 31 minutes.[20]
Philadelphia Half Marathon on September 21, 2014. She was sixth with a time of 1:11:39.[21] Kara placed 14th (4th among American women) in the TCS New York City Marathon on November 2, 2014 in 2:37:03.
Goucher finished 18th in the 2015 USATF Championships with a time of 16:05.35.[22]
On 13 February 2016, Kara placed fourth at the US Olympic Marathon Trials, finishing in 2:30:24, one minute behind Shalane Flanagan, on a warm day in Los Angeles.[23]
The half marathon was downhill and she never ran faster for that distance, ever. She only beat Paula because of the reasons listed on wiki.
She pr'd in the 10,000 at Beijing and placed 10th getting beaten by several women who didn't run the world championships in Osaka the year before, hence her getting 3rd that day. Many of those in front of her didn't pr that day.
She got 3rd in New York her first time out in 2:25:53 in great conditions. Paula beat her by almost 2 minutes.
Her marathon pr ended up being only 61 seconds faster than her debut. Yet she talked of breaking 2:20 and then going after Paula's record.
Kara was a good runner for sure, but a tad overrated and was made to look better in certain races due to who did and didn't race that day. As a pro she had a very short time period where she ran and placed decently.
After that, she was done and cashing in. She has or had 6 plus sponsors and will push anything if you pay her. Does Cragg have 6 sponsors? Her marathon pr is over 3 minutes faster than Goucher's.
Goucher feels enough power to drop innuendos about top women friends of hers wearing a shoe by Nike and having an advantage. This is because she doesn't run for Nike anymore and the shoe didn't exist when she was there. Sour grapes and grasping for straws.
As others have said, she's an opportunist looking to cash in on looks and her ability to blather on and on an on about anything to be heard and be emotional in the process which gets her publicity. Look at this thread as perfect example.
She did this after the 2009 Boston Marathon, making excuse after excuse after excuse as to why she didn't win. She got beat by 2 better runners but said she should have taken off earlier, etc...she still would have gotten beat and maybe by more than she did that day.
Flanagan, Cragg, Hasay, Kastor, have all done better in the marathon and are better marathoners, period. Hasay ran her 2nd marathon almost 4 minutes faster than Kara has ever run on her best day. There is simply no comparison.
4th place fail wrote:
Runnergrl wrote:
God I hate that interview. She should of just declined to talk. She sounds so bitter.
Again you don’t hear all that trash talking from Jordan Hasey. Or Galen Rupp. They never say anything bad a bout anyone.
i was so happy that she didn't make the olympic team, she is bad for our sport. that interview is a perfect example.
she really just needs to go away, nobody even cares about her anymore
Young runners now don't really know who Kara is, they like Abbey D'Agostino, Desi, Emma Coburn, Shalane, Frerichs, Simpson, etc. now
+1. At least some of those on your list are doing great work to promote the sport too. I feel like it's practically weekly I see Jenny doing something with NYRR to get more kids running. Great stuff.
Kara has taken Mary Decker Slaney's crown as queen of outbursts.
i cant seem to find the letsrun thread that had the edited parts of the emails between al sal and kara...anyone with skillz think they can find it?
maybe you rojo? wejo? i know you guys hate al sal and NOP, but then you also cyber bully kara and call her an attention seeking whore.....nice man, way to be nice to someone trying to be a whistle blower against the evil empire you hate
find the EDITED emails between al sal and kara...then read between the lines, and tell me again what you think...first time i read them my first thought was affair and this is why kara is too afraid to come clean cause admitting drug use is one thing, but to have your affair out in the open....thats SKETCH, and she porb knows al sal has "proof" that would eliminate him as a weinstien style. so she cant cry #metoo
find the edited emails and re post them
Runnergrl wrote:
God I hate that interview. She should of just declined to talk. She sounds so bitter.
Again you don’t hear all that trash talking from Jordan Hasey. Or Galen Rupp. They never say anything bad a bout anyone.
Galena and Jordan are still on the NOP sauce. Why would they say anything?
found this
"Kara responded shortly thereafter defending Adam and copied in Darren Treasure of the Oregon Project. I responded that Kara had to decide if she wanted me to coach her or not. I told her: I will not coach you if Adam continues with his actions and feelings. I care too much about you to go forward with a bound to fail proposition. Going forward, I’m no longer going to be handling any of your travel, hotels, etc. Adam…can set it up.
Kara then responded: Alberto, I love you and love being coached by you. But if you don’t want to coach me anymore, please tell me now. I cannot go through another year by myself like this past year. If you don’t want to coach me, please tell me now so that I can figure out what I am going to do. I can’t stress enough how much I love you coaching me, but I can’t handle these types of threats leading into an Olympic year."
in this rant maybe by al sal himself? he claims it was adam that caused all the drama.....well you can read it and say "oh adam is a drama queen" and support al sal. now its kara is a drama queen and support al sal
here is a guy who flipped out in albq REMEMBER? androgelled his son, mailed meds through the mail in a cut out book, doped himself, doped slaney and has EVERYONE he coaches get on thyroid meds, cain left and still people call kara a drama queen.
read this bit....i can read it the way the al sal fanboys do....or i can read it as adam was VERY suspicious of al sal and kara and it was destroying him. then the "Alberto, I love you"
again it sounds to me like an affair, adam didnt like it, and told kara to make a choice, she eventually left but al sal didnt make things easy, now there is drama. i mean why do people call her out as a drama queen and stick up for a guy who got PHYSICALLY THREATENING IN ALBQ? doped, had runners dope, lies, and acts shady?
i wasnt the only one thinking it either
why not read the thread fanboys and kara haters
dsafas
RE: Salazar: "Adam's behavior is why I no longer coach Kara" 6/24/2015 5:58PM - in reply to Adam is a joke
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Adam is a joke wrote:
When I returned from Brussels, Kara and I met and agreed it was best that we part ways and she find another coach. After our meeting we exchanged additional emails and parted friends. See Exhibit 25. I told her I still loved her. She wrote back that while we disagree on some things, we both agree that we care a lot for one another and hope that never changes. She wrote: “I have loved you for years now and don’t see that changing.” See Exhibit 25.So Adam was upset that AlSal was boning his wife? Seems pretty standard....
or how about his one
The smoking blunt
RE: Salazar: "Adam's behavior is why I no longer coach Kara" 6/25/2015 4:28PM - in reply to Goucher Mania
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Why is this a surprise to anyone?
Adam had a tough love story growing up, Kara has daddy issues.
With all the "I love you exchanges" would anyone be surprised if Kara cheated on Adam with Alberto?
Alberto Salazar - Past Cheater/Coaching Cheat
NOP et al. - Cheating
Steve Magness - Texas Dawg, Not as smart as he likes to portray himself
Kara Goucher - Daddy Issues
Adam Goucher - Misc Mental Issues
PP/BBC Journalist - Needs viewership, picked a Mo scab and struck a geyser of blood
Everyone involved is fabricating the truths of being guilty of something.
Kara was FAT. Adam was being an overprotective douche and bringing his own downfalls into the relationship between Alberto and Kara. Kara probably cheated on Adam (why wouldn't she?). Magness was being a dog and Magness likes to think he's a bigger deal than he actually is.
Rupp still looks like a munchkin elf.
In summary
Goucher = mainly famous for mouthing off/moaning/making stuff up
Simpson = mainly famous for showing several times more stomach than we really need to see. Oh and never contributing to any race just hoping to cash in on mistakes by others. Possibly the most boring racer ever. I have a special piece of cardboard to put over the screen just to cover up her vast stomach when she's in the field.