Kara Goucher runs 1:18+ half marathon - afterwards mentions personal crisis?

Nike is the "enabler" in all of these sports crimes. Nike has been getting away with this for a long time. What Nike should be doing is showing integrity and firing Alberto.

dsrunner wrote:

Just to be clear, Salazar violated several rules of ethical coaching and competition. Referring to it as dabbling in the gray area is just Nike damage control spin.

^This.

dsrunner wrote:

They thought they could get away with all of it.

And they did, thanks to a toothless USADA (who only went after the retired Armstrong after watching him dope for ten years and the Feds delivered them the case) and the "whistle blowers" who are too selfish to admit any wrongdoings.

It is highly embarrassing, on an international scale, that this group is still out there, competing and winning. On the other hand, it fits nicely to the kissing and beef eating excuses of our other dopers.

Almostsbs wrote:

not paid off wrote:

It doesn't quite work like that.

No really??? They have a beautiful home in a city with a booming housing market..does it work like that? Dont be dumb, use the Google machine and find out yourself. Yes, even people you have decided to hate can be successful... jealous much ?

You misunderstood how it works. Not sure where you are getting hate or jealousy from a simple real estate thing.

In my humble opinion, and only a educated theory, but I think one of the reasons that Kara gets so emotional and troubled when it comes times for the whole NOP witch hunt is that if Alberto is dirty then almost suredly so was Adam (hence him largely laying low during all of this) when he ran for them and possibly Kara herself and she can't figure out a way to taking down the NOP (which she desperately wants) without ruining her fairy tale life/career. She and Adam's past performances are their meal ticket and they can't afford tarnish those while taking down NOP.

Is she emotional because they spilled some personal damning information when testifying about Dr. Brown?

Many of us neutral parties in this whole soap-opera suspect the only way Kara gets her win and takes down Alberto is by taking her and Adam down at the same time. Since that hasn't happened it lends to the theory that Alberto may not be guilty of crossing the line just of being a rather obsessive coach and occasional jerk she personally hates.

khbj,n.m wrote:

red glare wrote:

Rupp isn't even as accomplished as Khannouchi, whom most on this board have forgotten by now.

how may Olympic medals does Khannouchi have?

How many WR has Rupp set? How many major marathons has Rupp won? You're a fool if you don't think Khannouch couldn't have won a couple medals at WC/OG if not for IAAF regs that required him to run for Morocco or sit out.

Lots of Nike employees working OT last night.

i like how runnergirl said "divorce" and my comments get deleted.

people on here think im just making things up cause im nuts-o....but for you guys on here who just think kara is a nut case (and im sure she has some sort of PTSD going on for sure) there was a day she came out and said she was going to DROP bombs....the brojos of course were wet in the pants, then boooom al sal exposed EDITED sections of emails between him and kara hours after she said she was going to DROP BOMBS

someone on here got a hold of them and it wasnt HARD to read between the lines. al sal was tricky on cutting and editing anything BAD on his part but instead showed the email exchange to make it look like she was a level 12 clinger and head over heels for al sal. if we had the FULL email i have NO doubt it would show an AFFAIR going on. its not hard to read those bits and see what was going on.

now if you had some big news to drop on al sal and NIKE, and part of it would be yes tarnish your career would it be HARD? yes you spineless cowards it would be hard to do. now imagine HOW much harder it would be if you had an AFFAIR with the coach involved with all the dirty doping sh*t? well that would make it damn NEAR IMPOSSIBLE.

how many on here already give her sh*t? this place is so full of pathetic worthless spineless cowards. all claiming for a clean sport, but how many defend al sal againse kara? how many defend kiprop?

if kara didnt have anything then how was she JUST in court? she has had plenty and was about to DROP bombs till hours later al sal dropped those edited EMAILS. its called BLACKMAIL.

the brojos can censor me all they want, those emails read like some sh*tty day time soap opera, ol dirty coach, affair with hot runner, doping, scandals, drama!!! oh my! i bet al sal stuck kara with more than just a needle

i mean come on guys our sport has suzy favor getting passed around in vegas, people claiming PED busts for making out with trannys, spiked toothpaste, yams, $32 tea, tainted beef, two many beers and sex with my wife, rouge masseuses, androgel rub downs with happy endings, who is aden i thought it was just some random guy i asked if he could hold a stopwatch, cant hear my doorbell, anyone who runs 1500 and up in the US strangely has a thyroid issue, EPO acutally makes you slower, and the best....anyone that isnt a runner can make ACCUSATIONS about drug use, but man o man, if a runner does it they are jealous hahaha man this place is a zoo

lolz

maybe just maybe i can be a reporter/journalist for LR, maybe i can be the boots on the ground, maybe i can ask the tuff duff questions....it will be hard, i dont know if the brojos can afford my $32 an hour....lolz

Wait, do we really have a 5 page thread about Kara Goucher crying then talking vaguely and cryptically about some tough thing going on in her life?? Ya know:

"poor me, I've had it sooo rough, (sob, sob, sniffle sniffle), I've had to deal with sooo much! (sob, sob). It's just not fair. (whine, whimper). WHY me? But I can't say what it is exactly. But you'll see. All of you. I will come out on top and bring down those who have victimized me! (waaaaah!) "

Seriously? Yaaaaawn.

I bet you that people who know her well would tell us that this happens at least 5 times a week.

LiesToldAsTruth wrote:

This thread is a bunch of conjecture about a personal crisis that was not revealed and no one here knows the answer. Nothing could be more clear from reading the posts. Another thing that is clear is that spewing hate and lies has become mainstream, especially if it can be done anonymously. It's not just for politics anymore.

People on LR hate Goucher because she spoke up, because she had running success, because she is attractive, because she was coached by Salazar (and all that may entail). They hate her enough to post false statements in the hopes that others will believe it just because they saw it written on a web page.

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth." -Vladimir Lenin (Responsible for the deaths of 6 million people). Lenin is apparently the idol of a lot of Americans now.

This is the post of the century on Let's Run.

ROJO-

PLEASE read this. Read it over and over.

Have someone you trust read it and then discuss it as two intelligent adults.

THEN- CHANGE this message board:

1. Get rid of the anonymity (If need be)

2. Delete posts that are obvious lies- like the ones on this thread that are moronic, jealous conjecture.

Delete the hate- what this person said about why people hate Goucher is true of her and many others.

Delete and BAN (lifetime) ANYONE who accuses ANYONE of ped use WITHOUT a positive test or admission of guilt.

We don't need those people here.

Oh please. You're just as much part of the drug mythologizing as anyone. Spare me the righteousness. "THE DRUG PROBLEM" is a social construct of endless nonsense.

Any time Kara Goucher is mentioned in a thread heading you know it's going to be controversial!

Anyone who doesn't think that Magness, Lewis, Goucher, Rupp all having been patients of Brown is an interesting twist is biased for the whistleblowers.

There are no angels and there are no demons in this story. This is a largely personal rift in the pro running community. Many have taken sides.

Houston scene wrote:

Anyone who doesn't think that Magness, Lewis, Goucher, Rupp all having been patients of Brown is an interesting twist is biased for the whistleblowers.

There are no angels and there are no demons in this story. This is a largely personal rift in the pro running community. Many have taken sides.

I can't speak for others, but my negative opinions of the NOP are about more than Dr. Brown.

I do not hate anyone. I dislike people who act unprofessionally. I feel that Kara could of handled things better with the press regarding Galen and NOP. That’s it.

Houston scene wrote:

Anyone who doesn't think that Magness, Lewis, Goucher, Rupp all having been patients of Brown is an interesting twist is biased for the whistleblowers.

There are no angels and there are no demons in this story. This is a largely personal rift in the pro running community. Many have taken sides.

There are gray areas and darker gray areas, but we'll never likely know for sure who went darker and who stayed on the lighter side shades.

Hi Jon! Long time no troll.

Hand on bible, I was certain Kara had retired to hobbyjog and show up for races on behalf of Oiselle. There is NO chance she is competitive for another world team.

Interesting that NOP has nowhere near the world, Olympic medals, and world records that SMTC has and yet Magness chooses to go after NOP yet giving SMTC (CARL LEWIS/LEROY BURRELL) his blessing while laying off his current employer.

He always kisses the ring until he gets the boot from any franchise

Wow just wow wrote:

You people are creepy. The house is assessed at 1,946,700 for tax purposes. Why do you care?

Maybe so, but what do they owe in their loan back to the bank and what did they buy it for, then we know the real numbers.