Update: Homeless guy who picked up lost London Marathon bib and ran final 300 meters has been jailed

What about

Kip Litton

Chandra B0zelko

Martin Franklin

Mike Rossi

Jane Seo

Do they all get prosecuted too? Why not?

The guy was well out of order in a sporting sense and I'm not buying his boo hoo story for which some are giving him a free pass.

However, dopers fraudulently winning millions are not subject to criminal prosecution so this is ridiculous. For a medal!

It's nothing to do with the criminal system here though. It's entirely dependent on someone making a complaint. Did London marathon organisation file it?

Sit and kick wrote:

How does one "steal" that which contains no personalizing info, and was clearly 'lost' ?

This is a salvage/recovery, finders/keepers

The charge is not for stealing the timing chip but fraudulently claiming the medal plus goodie bag. Still ridiculous!

But was his ABP anomalous?

vivalarepublica wrote:

Justice system there must not have too much to do.

That’s not true. Their main duty of PC policing across the internet is an infinitely large beast.

Wasn't this lumped in with two unrelated theft charges that obviously don't make a story?

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Wasn't this lumped in with two unrelated theft charges that obviously don't make a story?

Three theft charges. I think that's probably why he was charged but no one is mentioning it. But even if that;s the case, it's kind of crazy. I mean they had the London Marathon director testify at his trial.

"The London marathon chief executive, Nick Bitel, said the episode could be seen to damage the reputation and integrity of the race, regarded as one of the best organised in the world, the court heard."

A new article is out. He has been jailed.

So Tyrese Cooper gets off free for stealing cars and yet we jail this homeless guy in part for picking up a bib number? Glad we have our priorities straight.

God's Humor wrote:

So Tyrese Cooper gets off free for stealing cars and yet we jail this homeless guy in part for picking up a bib number? Glad we have our priorities straight.

Two different countries...

But really, London Marathon is doing the taxpayers a bigger disservice by "pressing charges" on this fellow. There is an ulterior motive here, and I'll wager it's to scare bandits or bib sellers.

Re:

Timing irregularities at Boston:

With the weather, and runners covering up with layers, there were a lot of splits that weren't captured. Not much more to write about with that. Related to that, it is more difficult to detect cheating based on missed mats when there is a high failure rate. Also, runners covering up makes for less photos, etc. The conditions also led to more variance in times (vs qualifiers) than is normal. So someone qualifying in 2:30:00 and running a 4 hour Boston was more prevalent. Meaning, I would have more false hits during the review process

All this means that it is not very efficient, or the best use of my time to go through a thousand Boston runners. The most obvious/likely cheats have been reviewed. And many were kept from running at all - I prefer to catch them before they can run Boston.

I've written about some of the obvious course cutters and some bib swappers. I am focusing more on catching runners and stopping them from running in 2019. It's a better, more productive use of my limited time.

There are a few good stories that I am working on, but I just haven't had much time to write them up.

I received this book from the author. Looking forward to reading it while on vacation next week.

http://www.umass.edu/umpress/title/bricklayer-bill

rojo wrote:

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

Wasn't this lumped in with two unrelated theft charges that obviously don't make a story?

Three theft charges. I think that's probably why he was charged but no one is mentioning it. But even if that;s the case, it's kind of crazy. I mean they had the London Marathon director testify at his trial.

"The London marathon chief executive, Nick Bitel, said the episode could be seen to damage the reputation and integrity of the race, regarded as one of the best organised in the world, the court heard."

A new article is out. He has been jailed.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/21/man-jailed-someone-elses-london-marathon-number-stanislaw-skupian

As far as I know they didn't prosecute the course cutters , bib copiers, or bib swappers that I wrote about. I wrote about a bib forger. He actually ran the full 26.2 miles after copying a bib. Why isn't he in jail?

The article indicates that the longest sentence was as a result of the bib fraud, with lesser time served concurrently for the thefts.

Regarding the bolded sentence, I would suggest that there are many, many, many, many, MANY other activities that are entirely better and more productive than spending any time worrying about and trying to catch cheating hobby joggers.

“The offences are so serious as only a prison sentence will suffice,” magistrate Michael O’Gorman said.

Skupian was sentenced to 13 weeks for the fraud and three weeks for the theft offences, to be served consecutively.

So a homeless man gets 13 weeks in jail for picking up a bib off the ground and 3 weeks for "theft" of small objects at airport church room he was living at. Where is the G-d damned British public defender when you need one? Or am I mistaken and Britain's justice system is more like the "sorriest arse" scene in V for Vendetta?

Sure. Like you could be doing more productive things than responding to my post.

Let me rephrase - As it relates to my website and investigating cheaters..it is a better use of my time to look at other races than to spin my wheels looking back at Boston '18.

God's Humor wrote:

So Tyrese Cooper gets off free for stealing cars and yet we jail this homeless guy in part for picking up a bib number? Glad we have our priorities straight.

Not so fast.. Cooper was only let off because of potential celebrity status. In the event that doesn't work out the police shot 10 young black men who haven't showed enough promise in order to balance things out.

What is great is that a homeless guy was inspired to do a bit of running because he found this bib. We should leave more marathon bibs around at races to inspire homeless guys to join these races.

rojo wrote:

"The London marathon chief executive, Nick Bitel, said the episode could be seen to damage the reputation and integrity of the race, regarded as one of the best organised in the world, the court heard."

Given that the London Marathon organizers keep on inviting and paying considerable sums of money to doping athletes year in year out, Nick Bittel should be thrown into prison for making such a ridiculous statement - the race unfortunately already has zero integrity and this homeless guy did nothing to damage it.

This is a total outrage. That bib was just lying there on the ground, clearly unable to finish. What a selfless act of compassion for this Samaritan to help the bib to the finish line! Meanwhile everyone else stood by and did nothing...NOTHING. Kindness like this should be celebrated and not prosecuted!!!