I would have pissed on the stuff after dragging it into an open area (not that it wasn't already soaked in urine), splashed gasoline on all of it, then set it ablaze. Maybe the winds would have picked it all up and soaked everyone near in crap and pee before then, who knows.
Regardless, this stuff is garbage, and whoever discarded it in a public place like that should be summoned. If someone claims that was their "home," they need to be examined because they're obviously insane. They should be sent to a mental health treatment center, jail, or prison facility.
Homeless Dude should shack up with Nancy and Jerry - right-on!
Homelessness is a real problem and a very complicated issue to solve. While this man's actions were totally wrong, on the other hand allowing someone to create a massive pile of junk on public property is also wrong. Most of that stuff was garbage. Homeless hoarders are a real issue. I can understand the man's frustrations, but it doesn't excuse his actions.
How do all of you think society should deal with the issue faced - a homeless man living in a public space and creating a huge pile of junk. Are people allowed to just do as they please on public property? What if anything should have been done about the situation?
1. Where did you live? If not where you're "camping," go back to where you lived.
2. Do you work?
3. Are you trying to work? If yes, here's assistance we can give you. (Short term housing, coaching, care, etc.)
If not, here's the address to the mental health facility.
If you're an a-hole, etc., here's a ride to the homeless prison.
Mental health facility: These exist, Reagan cut the funding. Let's restore the funding, rather than clean up after these crapheads all the time. Being pro-active is actually cheaper.
Homeless prison: Barbed wire FEMA trailer camps in remote areas. Truck food/water there a few times a week. Hose the trailers down every so often, and/or burn them to the ground. Put up new trailers when necessary.
Lip Kitten wrote:
Mystery solved
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Man-Arrested-After-Throwing-Homeless-Mans-Stuff-Into-Oaklands-Lake-Merritt-485314711.html
So the guy is being charged for taking the cell phone from a man who confronted him after the fact, and not for what he did to the homeless guy?
am I reading this correctly? wrote:
Lip Kitten wrote:
Mystery solved
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Man-Arrested-After-Throwing-Homeless-Mans-Stuff-Into-Oaklands-Lake-Merritt-485314711.htmlSo the guy is being charged for taking the cell phone from a man who confronted him after the fact, and not for what he did to the homeless guy?
Yeah, the guy with the cell phone who was just hanging around the homeless camp, cause, you know, that's what people do.
Longduckdong wrote:
Man, so the guy was arrested and is being held on $100K bail? Our society is f'd up ... now ole jogger joe will lose his job and have to setup camp right next to the homeless bum. We shoulda been thanking jogger joe.
I definitely agree with this.
Everyone wins mental illness awards all around including the the police and city government not doing their jobs.
looking for answers. wrote:
Homelessness is a real problem and a very complicated issue to solve. While this man's actions were totally wrong, on the other hand allowing someone to create a massive pile of junk on public property is also wrong. Most of that stuff was garbage. Homeless hoarders are a real issue. I can understand the man's frustrations, but it doesn't excuse his actions.
How do all of you think society should deal with the issue faced - a homeless man living in a public space and creating a huge pile of junk. Are people allowed to just do as they please on public property? What if anything should have been done about the situation?
How do they do it in Spain? I’m here now and shocked at how few homeless and sketchy people there are in Barcelona and especially Madrid. Are they allowed to institutionalize them against their will?
Bummer `/ wrote:
Longduckdong wrote:
Man, so the guy was arrested and is being held on $100K bail? Our society is f'd up ... now ole jogger joe will lose his job and have to setup camp right next to the homeless bum. We shoulda been thanking jogger joe.
I definitely agree with this.
Good, I hope he loses his job. He shows horrible judgement and a complete lack of character. I hope the homeless man is offered first dibs on his job.
Coughing man wrote:
looking for answers. wrote:
Homelessness is a real problem and a very complicated issue to solve. While this man's actions were totally wrong, on the other hand allowing someone to create a massive pile of junk on public property is also wrong. Most of that stuff was garbage. Homeless hoarders are a real issue. I can understand the man's frustrations, but it doesn't excuse his actions.
How do all of you think society should deal with the issue faced - a homeless man living in a public space and creating a huge pile of junk. Are people allowed to just do as they please on public property? What if anything should have been done about the situation?
How do they do it in Spain? I’m here now and shocked at how few homeless and sketchy people there are in Barcelona and especially Madrid. Are they allowed to institutionalize them against their will?
Spain follows the "housing first" model, as do some places in the US. This essentially puts everyone in an apartment or something, and uses guidance to keep an eye on things and allow them to decide when to take the next step, get help, etc. The cost for this is FAR cheaper than the mitigation efforts needed to clean up homeless messes.
The logistics are immense, but everywhere this is used, there is success. I live where there's a tremendous homeless problem, and it's not a reach to say this phenomenon will touch just about everyone in the US given economic realities, so don't let anyone say this is a difficult or unsolvable problem. It might be difficult to deal with the homeless, but the solution is indeed "housing first."
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Bummer `/ wrote:
I definitely agree with this.
Good, I hope he loses his job. He shows horrible judgement and a complete lack of character. I hope the homeless man is offered first dibs on his job.
YES! Especially if people's lives depend on it!
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Technically you can’t be arrested for stealing the homeless man’s stuff because he has no property. So all his stuff is public access.
Agreed. This is why I have the right to claim any dog that is not with the owner and is on public property. (Owner tag is irrelevant, just as it would be with the homeless man's goods.)
Coughing man wrote:
looking for answers. wrote:
Homelessness is a real problem and a very complicated issue to solve. While this man's actions were totally wrong, on the other hand allowing someone to create a massive pile of junk on public property is also wrong. Most of that stuff was garbage. Homeless hoarders are a real issue. I can understand the man's frustrations, but it doesn't excuse his actions.
How do all of you think society should deal with the issue faced - a homeless man living in a public space and creating a huge pile of junk. Are people allowed to just do as they please on public property? What if anything should have been done about the situation?
How do they do it in Spain? I’m here now and shocked at how few homeless and sketchy people there are in Barcelona and especially Madrid. Are they allowed to institutionalize them against their will?
Spain population: 46 million
US population: 325 million
Hffhjb wrote:
Coughing man wrote:
How do they do it in Spain? I’m here now and shocked at how few homeless and sketchy people there are in Barcelona and especially Madrid. Are they allowed to institutionalize them against their will?
Spain population: 46 million
US population: 325 million
So, your argument is, the larger the population, the larger the proportion of homeless people? Funny. I thought in a modern economy, a fundamental principle is that, on average, a human is a useful resource (takes in fewer resources than produces). If this is not the case, we probably need to rethink, like, everything, especially capitalism.
Lip Kitten wrote:
Mystery solved
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Man-Arrested-After-Throwing-Homeless-Mans-Stuff-Into-Oaklands-Lake-Merritt-485314711.html
"Sintay was booked into Santa Rita Jail in Dublin on Tuesday."
Why was he extradited to Ireland?
Bummer `/ wrote:
Longduckdong wrote:
Man, so the guy was arrested and is being held on $100K bail? Our society is f'd up ... now ole jogger joe will lose his job and have to setup camp right next to the homeless bum. We shoulda been thanking jogger joe.
I definitely agree with this.
Too bad he didn't throw Jerry Brown in the lake.
It might be better in other Metro areas like Newark or Oakland---so realize this is a small sample--but next time you're in Denver, take a ride to the Curtis Park public housing and tell me that's the solution. I'm not so sure it's better than sleeping on a lake shore.
FFF wrote:
Coughing man wrote:
How do they do it in Spain? I’m here now and shocked at how few homeless and sketchy people there are in Barcelona and especially Madrid. Are they allowed to institutionalize them against their will?
Spain follows the "housing first" model, as do some places in the US. This essentially puts everyone in an apartment or something, and uses guidance to keep an eye on things and allow them to decide when to take the next step, get help, etc. The cost for this is FAR cheaper than the mitigation efforts needed to clean up homeless messes.
The logistics are immense, but everywhere this is used, there is success. I live where there's a tremendous homeless problem, and it's not a reach to say this phenomenon will touch just about everyone in the US given economic realities, so don't let anyone say this is a difficult or unsolvable problem. It might be difficult to deal with the homeless, but the solution is indeed "housing first."
good with the bad wrote:
Guy wants to save money by not having a home, but doesn't want to deal with the downsides associated with not having a home. You have to take the bad with the good.
You moron. He is not living in a park to put the saved money into an investment portfolio, imbecile.