Portland Track Festival: Clayton Murphy takes down Drew Hunter, Windle>Centro @8, Jenkins (13:21), Marielle Hall (15:16) Win

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  - LetsRun.com
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  - The Portland Track Festival was last night. First time in a few years we weren't on site. Ken Goe has a recap below.
    
    Highlight might have been men's 1500 with Clayton Murphy winning over Drew Hunter. Murphy clearly best and rounding into form. Ryan Hill 4th.
    
    Drew Windle won 800, Matt Centrowitz 4th.
    
    Eric Jenkins 13:21.51 5k win, Marielle Hall 15:16.57 win.
    
    http://www.oregonlive.com/trac...0_a_1.html
    
    Results below but they are not very user friendly. It's the trackmeets.io format which is good for live results but for archived ones they're not very good.
    
    Issues with it: 1) It combines heats into combined results. Look at 800. Looks like Windle won over Abrahaman Alvarado. But if you look carefully you see they were in different heats. But it's combined into one result. That might work for a high school meet but not a pro meet.
    2) On one page even on a desktop you can see 3 athletes at once instead of glancing and seeing the entire race. Anyone knows of more traditional results for this meet, please let us know or post. Fans would like to be able to see all the results quickly at once.
    https://live.athletictiming.net/meets/855/events

- hillster
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  - hillster
  - Drew Hunter beat Ryan Hill.
    
    When is Hill going to learn how to race like a pro? He was 10th at the bell in a slow race. Hunter just got out of high school and already knows how to race better.
    
    The NOP guys know how to race. Be in position to win (and then win)

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  - If you click "Filter Results", you can change to see individual heats. Not sure what you are seeing with only seeing three athletes.

- Qwerti
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  - Man, why are domestic 800m races always so slow? 1:47.5 to win, and that was a solid field within the US. I’m sure Windle just hung back and kicked by everybody.

- Typical p'land weather
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  - Typical p'land weather
  - Qwerti wrote:
    
    Man, why are domestic 800m races always so slow? 1:47.5 to win, and that was a solid field within the US. I’m sure Windle just hung back and kicked by everybody.
    
    Cold and rainy. Not a day to run fast.

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  - Idontreallyknow wrote:
    
    If you click "Filter Results", you can change to see individual heats. Not sure what you are seeing with only seeing three athletes.
    
    3 athletes on my screen at once (have to scroll down to see more)
    https://www.letsrun.com/wp-cont....29.48.png
    
    NCAA results (entire race fits on one screen):
    https://www.letsrun.com/wp-cont....30.44.png
    
    Better yet Diamond League results (entire meet results on one page, but do have to scroll down):
    https://www.letsrun.com/wp-cont....32.13.png
    
    For fans to click and see the results of the Portland Track Festival meet it probably takes 10 minutes. Click on event, scroll down to see all the athletes, then hit back. Repeat for each event. Not to mention then up top hit on a different tab for each heat.
    
    It's great if you want to see just one event but overall it's not friendly for fans who want to see as much info as quickly as possible.

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  - Qwerti wrote:
    
    Man, why are domestic 800m races always so slow? 1:47.5 to win, and that was a solid field within the US. I’m sure Windle just hung back and kicked by everybody.
    
    The top finishers in both the 800 and the 1500 closed in 54 to 55 low

- Qwerti
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  - wineturtle wrote:
    
    Qwerti wrote:
    
    Man, why are domestic 800m races always so slow? 1:47.5 to win, and that was a solid field within the US. I’m sure Windle just hung back and kicked by everybody.
    
    The top finishers in both the 800 and the 1500 closed in 54 to 55 low
    
    So the 800m was still a positive split? That’s an entirely unremarkable last lap in a slow 800m race. I was kind of expecting a negative split from Windle given the finishing time.

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  - LetsRun.com wrote:
    
    Idontreallyknow wrote:
    
    If you click "Filter Results", you can change to see individual heats. Not sure what you are seeing with only seeing three athletes.
    
    3 athletes on my screen at once (have to scroll down to see more)
    https://www.letsrun.com/wp-cont....29.48.png
    
    NCAA results (entire race fits on one screen):
    https://www.letsrun.com/wp-cont....30.44.png
    
    Better yet Diamond League results (entire meet results on one page, but do have to scroll down):
    https://www.letsrun.com/wp-cont....32.13.png
    
    For fans to click and see the results of the Portland Track Festival meet it probably takes 10 minutes. Click on event, scroll down to see all the athletes, then hit back. Repeat for each event. Not to mention then up top hit on a different tab for each heat.
    
    It's great if you want to see just one event but overall it's not friendly for fans who want to see as much info as quickly as possible.
    
    Wait, wait, hold the phone. Is letsrun.com complaining about website usability? Oh the irony.

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  - wejo
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  - Dril wrote:
    
    Wait, wait, hold the phone. Is letsrun.com complaining about website usability? Oh the irony.
    
    People more than anything want results (the score of the game).
    
    LRC isn't pretty to the eye but you can get what you want quickly.

- byebye800
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  - byebye800
  - Does this mean Murphy is done with the 800? Guy has an Olympic medal as a 22 or 23 year old and he wants to believe he's a miler.
    
    He's mediocre as a miler internationally.

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  - D1 Scrub
  - yo, dictator. why you crying so much?

- rojo
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  - Dril wrote:
    
    Wait, wait, hold the phone. Is letsrun.com complaining about website usability? Oh the irony.
    
    It's not ironic at all. We've been criticized by many for not doing a) graphics and or b) big redesign. We've never done it for one simple reason - we think our simple design is incredibly easy to use. The usability of our design is top notch. It's not pretty and designers/programmers don't like it as they can't charge an arm and leg for it but it works.
    
    It's like the drudgereport - you can get all of your info very quickly. Our goal is to give you info and save you time and the design works incredibly well for that.
    
    On mobile, we should you one column. Just in the last day or two, the drudgereport has actually adopted the same format (instead of trying to do all 3 columns).

- Qwerto
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  - Qwerto
  - rojo wrote:
    
    Dril wrote:
    
    Wait, wait, hold the phone. Is letsrun.com complaining about website usability? Oh the irony.
    
    It's not ironic at all. We've been criticized by many for not doing a) graphics and or b) big redesign. We've never done it for one simple reason - we think our simple design is incredibly easy to use. The usability of our design is top notch. It's not pretty and designers/programmers don't like it as they can't charge an arm and leg for it but it works.
    
    It's like the drudgereport - you can get all of your info very quickly. Our goal is to give you info and save you time and the design works incredibly well for that.
    
    On mobile, we should you one column. Just in the last day or two, the drudgereport has actually adopted the same format (instead of trying to do all 3 columns).
    
    This is so, so delusional. But there are simple things you could do to make it dramatically more palatable. Step one is to make the forum category filter useful. Have you not noticed that the options there don’t even match the category options when you make a thread? For example, if I want to filter for the injury/nutrition thread category, there is literally no way to do that. It’s like a particularly dumb 3rd grader designed that. And the number one filter option needs to be “running-related only”. Even if you just added that filter, it would initiate a quantum leap forward in the quality of the forum.

- gripe sesh
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  - gripe sesh
  - I like the format of letsrun. I imagine this thread will now devolve into a bunch of haters but I wanted to voice support for those of us who enjoy that letsrun has remained largely the same since its inception. I agree both the mobile and desktop version of the page are easy to use and interact with. I would rather you guys focus on race analysis and reporting over graphics and web design any day.

- Why That
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  - byebye800 wrote:
    
    Does this mean Murphy is done with the 800? Guy has an Olympic medal as a 22 or 23 year old and he wants to believe he's a miler.
    
    He's mediocre as a miler internationally.
    
    My gosh that's ignorant. He's always run both. He keeps improving - at least up until he was injured. Seems to be back on track, no pun intended. He medaled at the Olympics at 21. He's 23 now. He has the talent to go sub 3:50 in the mile. His best event potentially is the 800 if Nike does not ruin his natural speed with too much mileage.

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  - Why That wrote:
    
    byebye800 wrote:
    
    Does this mean Murphy is done with the 800? Guy has an Olympic medal as a 22 or 23 year old and he wants to believe he's a miler.
    
    He's mediocre as a miler internationally.
    
    My gosh that's ignorant. He's always run both. He keeps improving - at least up until he was injured. Seems to be back on track, no pun intended. He medaled at the Olympics at 21. He's 23 now. He has the talent to go sub 3:50 in the mile. His best event potentially is the 800 if Nike does not ruin his natural speed with too much mileage.
    
    Your last sentence leads me to believe you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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  - wejo wrote:
    
    Dril wrote:
    
    Wait, wait, hold the phone. Is letsrun.com complaining about website usability? Oh the irony.
    
    People more than anything want results (the score of the game).
    
    LRC isn't pretty to the eye but you can get what you want quickly.
    
    This site in my opinion is put together wonderfully in my opinion. Especially to the comparable/competing sites I visit. Milesplit requires you to pay to read articles half the time and then the other half the articles are almost computer generated articles about the top 500 sophomores in the state or something of that sort. The discussion boards are vacant I may be biased though because letsrun is my homepage. Flotrack is flotrack. I benefit more from their twitter/ instagram more than anything. Very few places to go to get news/discussion on HS,Pro,College running.

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  - Qwerto wrote:
    
    rojo wrote:
    
    Dril wrote:
    
    Wait, wait, hold the phone. Is letsrun.com complaining about website usability? Oh the irony.
    
    It's not ironic at all. We've been criticized by many for not doing a) graphics and or b) big redesign. We've never done it for one simple reason - we think our simple design is incredibly easy to use. The usability of our design is top notch. It's not pretty and designers/programmers don't like it as they can't charge an arm and leg for it but it works.
    
    It's like the drudgereport - you can get all of your info very quickly. Our goal is to give you info and save you time and the design works incredibly well for that.
    
    On mobile, we should you one column. Just in the last day or two, the drudgereport has actually adopted the same format (instead of trying to do all 3 columns).
    
    This is so, so delusional. But there are simple things you could do to make it dramatically more palatable. Step one is to make the forum category filter useful. Have you not noticed that the options there don’t even match the category options when you make a thread? For example, if I want to filter for the injury/nutrition thread category, there is literally no way to do that. It’s like a particularly dumb 3rd grader designed that. And the number one filter option needs to be “running-related only”. Even if you just added that filter, it would initiate a quantum leap forward in the quality of the forum.
    
    I do have to agree this would help a good bit.

- html 1.0 baby
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  - html 1.0 baby
  - gripe sesh wrote:
    
    I like the format of letsrun. I imagine this thread will now devolve into a bunch of haters but I wanted to voice support for those of us who enjoy that letsrun has remained largely the same since its inception. I agree both the mobile and desktop version of the page are easy to use and interact with. I would rather you guys focus on race analysis and reporting over graphics and web design any day.
    
    +1
    
    If only it wasn't so cocked up with javascript garbage, but ublock makes it quite usable. Wish I didn't have to use it, and would disable for this site to support, if it wasn't required to make it usable.