WHAT THE HECK happened to BYU?

Mudhen wrote:

Plus they are also responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre, so there's that too.

Oh shut up. Maybe think of something better and more intelligent to say that actually benefits the conversation.

you're about a year and a half late to the party pal. how did you find this again?

he just came back from mission

medical redshirt wrote:

he just came back from mission

Boom

how and why wrote:

you're about a year and a half late to the party pal. how did you find this again?

I'm very glad he found this, though. The posters on the first 3 pages look like fools now in light of recent events.

Yah they are.

Getting beat by a bunch of 24-27 years olds is very impressive.

The women are all normal college age. It doesn't really appear to make a difference because the men only finished 1 spot higher than the women.

Smh. wrote:Yah they are.

Getting beat by a bunch of 24-27 years olds is very impressive.

Not a BYU fan but how many 26-27 years olds were on the team? Right, there were zero. Not sure they even had a 25 year old. They did have a lot of 22 year old runners. Is that ok?

LDS wrote:

The women are all normal college age. It doesn't really appear to make a difference because the men only finished 1 spot higher than the women.

Well done though good and faithful servant. You have the critical thinking skills that it requires to be Mormon.

The fact that the BYU women placed second at nationals has nothing to do with the debate. Whether or not BYU men have an advantage over other teams because they

are typically two years older than the average college athlete when they graduate has nothing to do with the women’s team. The women could win every year or fail to qualify every year and it wouldn’t strengthen or weaken your stance.

Bring ‘em Young wrote:

LDS wrote:

The women are all normal college age. It doesn't really appear to make a difference because the men only finished 1 spot higher than the women.

Well done though good and faithful servant. You have the critical thinking skills that it requires to be Mormon.

The fact that the BYU women placed second at nationals has nothing to do with the debate. Whether or not BYU men have an advantage over other teams because they

are typically two years older than the average college athlete when they graduate has nothing to do with the women’s team. The women could win every year or fail to qualify every year and it wouldn’t strengthen or weaken your stance.

It has everything to do with the debate. Salty crybabies like you think that the only reason that BYU is good is because they are ever so slightly older, and that taking two full years off of training before college somehow gives them an advantage. The BYU women are evidence of how pathetically bogus that argument is. Obviously age has nothing to do with their success. How on Earth would being merely being two years older give someone an advantage when precisely zero physical development occurs in those two years? What guys are still growing significantly when they're 23?

You are correct. The women and men are mormons. They go to school in the same place and have similar training and elevation advantages. The men and women perform at similar levels in the NCAA even though the women probably average 1-2 years less than the men. Age has nothing to do with the success happening at BYU. Even if it does, so what?

If the women’s team doing well at nationals is evidence that the men’s team doesn’t benefit from having older runners on their team, is the the opposite also true? When the women’s team fails to qualify for nationals and the men do well, is that evidence that the men’s team is benefiting from having older runners on their team? Your logic makes no sense.

I really don’t care about the age of the BYU team, but I don’t understand why the NCAA allows an exception for people that choose to take two years off from school to do volunteer recruiting work for a multi-billion dollar corporation.

Bring ‘em Young wrote:I really don’t care about the age of the BYU team, but I don’t understand why the NCAA allows an exception for people that choose to take two years off from school to do volunteer recruiting work for a multi-billion dollar corporation.

Actually any school could do this. It's just that BYU is a school that does it. Funny how BYU Football has this same issue with most of the players leaving for two years at some point. However, BYU football the past 10 years or so as been just terrible. Obviously the two years off is not an issue athletically speaking or the BYU Football program would be crushing everyone.

Maybe being able to recruit top talent is the biggest issue??

multi-billion dollar corporation.

Thank you for flaunting your prejudice so I didn't have to infer it.