Metcalf steps down from coaching at University of Washington

yes you have missed the point. A coach who is harsh or demanding is his/her style. You don't stumble into a national championship. You earn your way there. Athletes need to know what kind of coach they are working under. If they don't like that style they shouldn't try to get the coach fired. They have the choice to sign or not sign with a school. UNLESS he grabbed a girl by the pxxxy(as our president would say) and is fired for cause. And Saban? If he decided to switch to coaching XC... within 5 years he would have a team on the podium. Great coaches are just that great coaches. Doesn't matter the sport.

ps i was comparing saban to metcalf. you didn't absorb the sentence. when someone says sec football is different than uw girls xc, im saying that it is not different. I am saying that both schools have d1 athletes(doesnt matter if its a womans xc team or a mens football team) i am comparing them to point out that saban isn't cotton candy and flowers and yet he wins and those who dont like him dont sign with alabama or leave. they dont try to get him fired.

Metcalf is the leading candidate to fill the USATF Predsident gig. Metcalf is honest and not on the take. That will be refreshing.

As in you are moving them (goal posts). Now, it's on the athlete to know what kind of a coach they are getting before they sign with that school??? Ahh, okay, sure... it's clear you aren't real familiar with recruiting 17/18 year olds.

(It's not on the coach to know what kind of an athlete he/she is signing? No two way street, huh?)

And you continue to miss my point but I am done making it.

Saban winning an XC championship in 5 years... lol. Yeah, okay.

My conversation with you on the subject is now done.

Cheers

Limp Runners wrote:

I agree with you.

Our sport attracts the non athlete. The kid that wasn't athletic enough to survive in other sports. They don't know how REAL athletes are treated. Toughen up folks.

Not rue! A lot of very successful soccer players who weren't quite good enough to make it in the upper select soccer or ODP teams switched over to T&F mostly running the distance events and doing very well.

........and to that wimpy runner in a high school meet many years ago. Sorry about your dumping your a$$ to the ground after you elbowed me.

Issues were with the men’s team, not the women's. Can’t say anything else.

Hayduke wrote:

ps i was comparing saban to metcalf. you didn't absorb the sentence. when someone says sec football is different than uw girls xc, im saying that it is not different. I am saying that both schools have d1 athletes(doesnt matter if its a womans xc team or a mens football team) i am comparing them to point out that saban isn't cotton candy and flowers and yet he wins and those who dont like him dont sign with alabama or leave. they dont try to get him fired.

I'll be glad when idiots like this are no longer allowed to be coaching.

People need to toughen up. Greg Metcalf is Mister Rogers compared to the guy before him. Distance runners are just pussies by nature. The nerdy kids who weren't good at anything else. Notice no one from the sprinting ranks commenting about being abused. Let's quit with all the abuse talk. It's D1 sports, step up or quit.

That being said, it was time for a change. Metcalf seemed to only focus on women's distance. That's cool if you are the women's cross-country coach, but if you are coaching an entire men's and women's track team, that doesn't cut it. Especially when all of those high profile women are only good for a year. It showed in the results with year after year of miserable Pac-12 team Championship showings.

Pat Tyson should take over for Metcalf.

Heard the Furman coaches may be headed to the PNW?

Fur man wrote:

Heard the Furman coaches may be headed to the PNW?

No. Gary's to App State

Koiju wrote:

Pat Tyson should take over for Metcalf.

Tyson has done some very good things at Gonzaga recently - both in terms of performance and recruiting - given where the program was 10 years ago or so.

Still, Gonzaga is distance only and I believe Tyson only coaches the men. Maybe he could slot in as men's distance because I can't imagine he has the experience to oversee the program and do what Metcalf had to do.

It would be ironic, though, if Metcalf leaving/Tyson replacing is what it would take to finally open up the Spokane-to-UW-pipeline (after HS coaches tending to steer their studs clear of Seattle for years) since the last two years have probably been the worst in 25+ for Spokane distance runners.

Gary squared wrote:

Fur man wrote:

Heard the Furman coaches may be headed to the PNW?

No. Gary's to App State

APP state is a HUGE step below Furman. I don’t see this happening at all.

Nonsensical wrote:

Gary squared wrote:

No. Gary's to App State

APP state is a HUGE step below Furman. I don’t see this happening at all.

Yep and Furman was a huge step down from Ohio State. Sometimes there is more to the story.

I'm not sure if I believe that the Gary's would leave Furman voluntarily for App State since it is not a step up or lateral. BUT Rita has certainly worn out her welcome every other place she has been. Incredibly vulgar mouth, and demanding personality (and not in a good way). And that has grated on her previous positions.

The Boise St and BYU dist coaches are on the short list.

Look at the issues wrote:

Nonsensical wrote:

APP state is a HUGE step below Furman. I don’t see this happening at all.

Yep and Furman was a huge step down from Ohio State. Sometimes there is more to the story.

Yeah. Like $$$. App State going to make it rain on the Gary's (both of them) like Furman & cater to their post collegiate group?

No Doubt wrote:

The Boise St and BYU dist coaches are on the short list.

You think Ed Eyestone is leaving BYU? Ha.

BigTones wrote:

Wtf, great Guy to party with

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