Is Nike protecting Galen Rupp?

m!ndweak wrote:

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is nike protecting Dr Rosa?

Somebody is protecting the Rosas. Imagine if that stopped? Just imagine if they talked about everything they knew? There would be carnage, absolute chaos.

Scorpion_runner wrote:

I support Galen, and he is the best that America has . There isn't another american male marathoner who is on his level.

He won a bronze at the Olympics in the marathon. He won Chicago, was the runner up in Boston, and he recently won Prague with a PB of 2:06. From a far, that's a quality beginning to a marathon career. However, with a closer look, is his path being dictated by the overlords at Nike to put Galen in a position to win?

Are they making sure that he will not be in a race with other runners who have serious 5k/10k speed, or pure blazing marathoners? Are they protecting him from the likes of Kipchoge, Farah, Karoki, Kamworor, Bekele , Kipsang, etc?

What are you thoughts on this?

nope he couldnt beat marathon b runners apart from kirui at boston

Some other guy wrote:

Approximately what percentage of the non-sense that you post on here do you truly believe? Just ballpark. Are you just really good at playing a stupid sort of devil's advocate man? Seriously wondering. If the latter... wow.

I think he honestly believes what he posts and stupidly oblivious, shown by the thread where he got banned from a running store.

Hall isn’t even a top 5 all-time US marathoner. You may want to pick a different poster boy.

The list of major international races that Rupp has won is short.

In fact, he never won a single major international race until 2017.

Now, he has won two:

- Chicago Marathon 2017

- Prague Marathon 2018 (if you want to call that major

Here is another short list: the number of accomplished world class runners that Rupp had to beat to win those two soft races.

Seriously, list them.

Mo Farah could easily run 100m in the time it takes for you to say their names out loud.

the former Duck can only DUCK races wrote:

Mo Farah could easily run 100m in the time it takes for you to say their names out loud.

I don’t think you are making the argument you believe you are.

compreezy wrote:

the former Duck can only DUCK races wrote:

Mo Farah could easily run 100m in the time it takes for you to say their names out loud.

I don’t think you are making the argument you believe you are.

I don't think you are making the assumptions about Mo Farah's 100m time that I am.

Regardless, tell me the great runners Rupp beat in his two lifetime international wins.

the former Duck can only DUCK races wrote:

compreezy wrote:

I don’t think you are making the argument you believe you are.

I don't think you are making the assumptions about Mo Farah's 100m time that I am.

Regardless, tell me the great runners Rupp beat in his two lifetime international wins.

Lol, Rupp beat two time world champ, 2012 Olympic silver medalist, 2:05 guy Abel Kirui, WR holder Dennis Kimetto, and 2016 silver medalist, 2:04 guy Feyisa Lelisa. And that was just in Chicago.

Beat 2:04:08 guy Sisay Lemma in two straight marys.

I'll let you do the research on who he beat at the Olympics and Boston.

Oh, and at Chicago I forgot 2:03 guy Stanley Biwott, world half marathon record holder and 2:06 guy Tadese, multi-time Majors podium finisher (no easy feat) Bernard Kipyego.

In fact, it seems like the only top level marathoners that Rupp has not vanquished after the Olympic Trials are Kipchoge, Kipsang, Bekele, G. Kirui, and the host of upstart Ethiopians that have emerged in the past couple seasons (Adola, Kitata, the Dubai crew). So that's like 10 guys or so.

Rupp is a top 10 marathoner in the world right now. Period.

Is there anything that Rupp could do to please you idiots?

Olympic Trials: 1st

Olympic Games: 3rd

Boston: 2nd

Chicago: 1st

Boston: DNF

Prague: 1st in 2:06:07

That an almost unbelievable resume for an American runner. Hell, that's a pretty good resume for ANY runner.

I'm sure even if he had run London this year and won, the Rupp haters would have dismissed it with something like "Oh well Kipchoge, Bekele, and Farah are old and past their primes. When's he going to race some REAL competition?"

Moby Dick wrote:

Seyta wrote:

3) Nike has multi-million dollar contracts with a legion of athletes (basketball players, football players, etc.) all of whom make more and provide more exposure than Rupp. That people think that Nike would even CONSIDER leveraging manpower for something with so little return is absurd.

Sponsoring professional T & F athletes is a charity case for Nike. Not a business deal.

This. Nike doesn't care what Rupp does. Salazar decides. Nike makes probably zero dollars off of Rupp as he's not very marketable. And HE RAN THE FREAKING OLYMPICS. He wasn't being protected.

99.99% of the population couldn't pick Rupp out of a line-up. Get real skinny leggers.

the former Duck can only DUCK races wrote:

The list of major international races that Rupp has won is short.

In fact, he never won a single major international race until 2017.

Now, he has won two:

- Chicago Marathon 2017

- Prague Marathon 2018 (if you want to call that major

Here is another short list: the number of accomplished world class runners that Rupp had to beat to win those two soft races.

Seriously, list them.

Mo Farah could easily run 100m in the time it takes for you to say their names out loud.

pre classic 10k 2014, 26:44, smoked a lot the best Kenyans...... def a major international win

vivalarepublica wrote:

Rupp is a top 10 marathoner in the world right now. Period.

LOLOLOLOLOL. Because he won, um, PRAGUE? In a 2:06??

How many hundreds of runners have broken 2:06? By the end of this year alone there may be 100.

the former Duck can only DUCK races wrote:

tell me the great runners Rupp beat in his two lifetime international wins.

vivalarepublica wrote:

Lol, Rupp beat two time world champ, 2012 Olympic silver medalist, 2:05 guy Abel Kirui, WR holder Dennis Kimetto, and 2016 silver medalist, 2:04 guy Feyisa Lelisa. And that was just in Chicago.

I'll let you do the research on who he beat at the Olympics and Boston.

Can you even read??

I asked who was behind Rupp in the two major races that races he WON. "Won" as in first place. Get it?

Did Rupp win the Olympics? No. Did Rupp win Boston? No.

As for "2:04 guy Feyisa Lelisa," you are just embarrassing yourself: Lelisa ran 2:04:52 SIX YEARS AGO. He has not gone under 2:06:30 since then, and his 2017 best was 2:14! "2:04 guy" lolololol!

Kimetto?? He has been washed up for years. His 2016 best was 2:11 and he didn't even finish a marathon in 2017!

Your post has only proven my point. The races Rupp has won (using your Chicago examples) came over washed-up runners with no current ability to run a fast time. (By definition, in fact: they couldn't keep up with a 2:09!)

Lelisa won Tokyo 2016 and beat Rupp at the Olympics, and then Rupp turned the tables and beat him the next year in Chicago. I think that's a solid scalp.

Abel Kirui was 1st in Chicago 2016 and 4th in London 2017. Rupp beat him in Chicago, A. Kirui then gets 4th again in London 2018. That's not a guy who's "washed up", unless you consider 4th place at London washed up.

Sissay Lemma ran a low 2:04 in Dubai in between his two losses to Rupp in Chicago and Prague.

I agree that Kimetto is no longer relevant.

the former Duck can only DUCK races wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

Rupp is a top 10 marathoner in the world right now. Period.

LOLOLOLOLOL. Because he won, um, PRAGUE? In a 2:06??

How many hundreds of runners have broken 2:06? By the end of this year alone there may be 100.

OK, according to the IAAF there have been 176 marathon performances 2:06:07 or faster. 85 different runners have done it.

19 guys ran faster than 2:06:07 in 2017. Most of them won marathons doing so, and better races than B-list Prague, too.

Rupp is not a top 10 marathoner in the world. Period. He is not even in the conversation based on a 2:09 Chicago and 2:06 Prague win.

Better, based on 2017 and 2018 runs:

- Eliud Kipchoge

- Guye Adola (2:03:46 for 2nd in Berlin is better than anything Rupp has done in the marathon)

- Wilson Kiprotich (2:03:58 to win Tokyo is better than anything Rupp has done)

- Tamirat Tola (2:04:11 to win Dubai 2017 is better than anything Rupp has done)

- Mosinet Geremew (2:04:00 to win Dubai 2018)

- Leule Gebrselasie (2:04:02 for second in Dubai)

- Dickson Chumba (2:05:30 to win Tokyo)

- Lawrence Cherono (2:05:09 to win Amsterdam is better than anything Rupp has done)

- Norbert Kigen (2:05:13 for second in Amsterdam is better than anything Rupp has done)

- Sammy Kitwara (2:05:15 to win Valencia is better than anything Rupp has done)

- Abraham Kiptum (2:05:26, third in Amsterdam)

- Kenenisa Bekele (2:05:57 for second in London)

- Sondre Moen (2:05:48 to win Fukuoka)

- Daniel Kinyua (2:05:48 to win London)

- Tola Kitata (2:05:50 to win Frankfurt)

It would be easy to go on, but typing dozens of accomplishments more impressive than Rupp's slow Prague win is just such a long list!

Go Rupp! Top 10, if not Top 5, in the entire world!

vivalarepublica wrote:

Go Rupp! Top 10, if not Top 5, in the entire world!

OK, I will give you this. He is in the top two non-African born marathon runners active so far in 2018. (Sondre Moen (winning Fukuoka in 2:05) is quite obviously his superior.)

In the world, top 20 or maybe top 15 is fair.

Top 10? Laughable. Cherry-picking a couple of slow/B-list races is not impressive. Not relative to over a dozen guys running faster to win/place in much better races.

the former Duck can only DUCK races wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

Go Rupp! Top 10, if not Top 5, in the entire world!

OK, I will give you this. He is in the top two non-African born marathon runners active so far in 2018. (Sondre Moen (winning Fukuoka in 2:05) is quite obviously his superior.)

In the world, top 20 or maybe top 15 is fair.

Top 10? Laughable. Cherry-picking a couple of slow/B-list races is not impressive. Not relative to over a dozen guys running faster to win/place in much better races.

It's actually most likely top 4. The list of guys I would pick over Rupp are Kipchoge and...........after that it's pretty debatable. Probably Geoffrey Kirui. Possibly Kamworor but he has not been great at the full 'thon.

And if you actually think Moen could stay anywhere near Rupp (see Rio 2016, and would Moen even enter a major?), well I've got some "waterfront" property to sell you........