2020 Boston Requirement changes

There should only be one standard for humans. Anything else is discrimination. You dont want to say women are inferior?

sorrynotsorry wrote:

Sorry to say, but 3:05 for men is a joke too.

Sorry not sorry, you just sound like a conceited ahole. Nobody is impressed by your poor attempt at humble bragging

Women who runn 3:30-4:00 marathons are much more pleasant than the 2:45-3:00 group.

bostoner wrote:

Boston is one of the more downhill courses you can run, trust me on this, they won't be removing downhill courses as a qualifier. My lifetime PR is from Boston, i best my time from a Revel Big Cottonwood by 4 minutes in Boston.

They just need to adjust womens times.

Agreed - also ran my PR there by 7 minutes and was in the race with a heat wave.

bostoner wrote:

Boston is one of the more downhill courses you can run, trust me on this, they won't be removing downhill courses as a qualifier. My lifetime PR is from Boston, i best my time from a Revel Big Cottonwood by 4 minutes in Boston.

They just need to adjust womens times.

You could have also improved between the 2 races. Big difference -400 feet and -4000 feet

Any intelligent person wrote:

it is unacceptable that a young healthy women can qualify (and overqualify, thus hurting the mens side) with a 3:45 or even a 4:00 junk marathon, smh.

You're complaining about the opportunity to run with even more young healthy women? smh

Frankly they should have decided this before now. The qualifying window is already open on 2020 and folks should be informed as to the qualifying times.

you have a good point, but really registration closed last Wednesday, as did the 2019 registration window. They will likely announce the 202 0 standards this Wednesday, so that only affects anyone who ran a marathon this weekend pretty much. BAA may even make a stipulation if they make changes, like anyone who qualified for 2020 before the changes were announced can still use the old standsad, but who know.

Old And In The Way wrote:

Frankly they should have decided this before now. The qualifying window is already open on 2020 and folks should be informed as to the qualifying times.

How about you just run as fast as you are capable of and then see if it was good enough once the 2020 standards are out?

Old And In The Way wrote:

Frankly they should have decided this before now. The qualifying window is already open on 2020 and folks should be informed as to the qualifying times.

Ya’ll realize that they are still verifying results for THIS YEAR, right? Until they finish up at the end of the week, they still don’t know what the cutoff is going to be/was for 2019. I’d guess they have a good idea, but if they have to throw out a bunch of results it could push things a few seconds.

IIRC, they have actually always announced the qualifying window and registration date for the successive year before they’ve announced the qualifying standards for the race. And based on their social media posts and press releases (“limited number of applicants from week 2”) they are signaling pretty strongly that there will be an adjustment for 2020, which I would expect will get announced at the same time that they complete verification for this year.

I’m on board with the folks who are saying a 5-minute bump across the board. They seem to have been very happy with the way that their registrations are working, all they need to do is tighten things to keep people from being outraged that you have to exceed the standard by >5 minutes. I don’t see any reason why they would do a bigger overhaul than that.

central_park_laps wrote:

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

The women's qualifying times SHOULD be 5 minutes faster. Doesn't mean it will change, but it should. Of course, changing the female BQ times without changing the male times would label them as sexist, even with data to back it up.

The womens' qualifying times should be 11 minutes faster. That would make it equivalent from an age graded percentile standpoint to the mens' times. Of course, that'll never happen as that would skew the field more heavily male because for some reason considerably more men are running at a mid-60s and higher age graded percentile level than women.

At current, it's way easier for a woman to qualify for Boston than a man. That's not sexist, it's just data.

Why would you want more men in the field? I know I prefer more women hanging around in skimpy running outfits. Also, they probably spend a lot more at the expo.

sorrynotsorry wrote:

Sorry to say, but 3:05 for men is a joke too.

So, 1400 people (men and women) went under 3:05 at NYC last year. I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna hire you to run my marathon.

They should increase the length of the qualifying window. I would have been 45 minutes under but had run the previous December before the window and didn't race a marathon last year.

zxcvzcxv wrote:

They should increase the length of the qualifying window. I would have been 45 minutes under but had run the previous December before the window and didn't race a marathon last year.

I don't feel bad that your BQ - 45 from December of 2016 doesn't count for Boston 2019.

x_hole wrote:

sorrynotsorry wrote:

Sorry to say, but 3:05 for men is a joke too.

So, 1400 people (men and women) went under 3:05 at NYC last year. I'm pretty sure I'm not gonna hire you to run my marathon.

and I was one of them, can you imagine?!

It could also help spread the field to avoid overcrowding (see Berlin complaints).

I have no dog in this fight, but it would be nice if they made the registration 5 or 6 weeks later to allow people to aim for the fall marathons. I'm sure it would be not be too hard, logistically. It may also make it harder to get in, with more races to BQ, so lower the time as well to manage the oversupply of those who squeak in, but miss the cutoff.

30 min BQ wrote:

I have no dog in this fight, but it would be nice if they made the registration 5 or 6 weeks later to allow people to aim for the fall marathons. I'm sure it would be not be too hard, logistically. It may also make it harder to get in, with more races to BQ, so lower the time as well to manage the oversupply of those who squeak in, but miss the cutoff.

What? You can't run a Fall marathon and qualify?

Worcester Ed wrote:

What? You can't run a Fall marathon and qualify?

He is saying, for example Chicago 2018 is not qualifyer for 2019. It is for 2020.

Not that long ago, the registration window would be open for months. If they tighten standards enough, the registration window might stay open until Chicago and other fall marathons.

My lazy buttocks is probably going to get squeaked out with a 3:01:20. I had some massive GI issue that day, and in hindsight I wish it wasn't a "qualifier" because I probably would have ran another marathon.