You are a moran of the highest order if you think a 1:08 is indicative of talent of a Footlocker XC finalist, rather than a race done off of little training. Every Footlocker finalist boy ever could have done a 1:08 in high school without pushing that hard - probably could do it in training.
Thanks for pointing out that Freriks also qualified for Footlocker finals. No wonder that, training with Walmsley, he destroyed Hawks and Miller at TNF50 last November.
road ultras sound...miserable wrote:
Comrades just sounds like cruel and unusual punishment, but it may suit him well if he ever wants to venture into Ultra land.
20,000 people are running this year....are they masochists or just want to finish one of the most revered band most credible of races?
...and standing on the start line at Comrades with 20,000 singing shoza-loza must rank amongst the most goose bumpiest moments in running.
What is cruel and unusual punsihment though, is the firing of the gun at the cut-off and not getting a finish (or intermediate medal) even if 1 sec away....and that person just sucks it up and says "I'll try again next year".
leave the trail walking to the trail walkers wrote:
Yuki "runs" Western States - snooze fest. I'm sorry but when eating becomes the key element of a contest then you've lost me.
Except when the contest is 'eating' :-)
leave the trail walking to the trail walkers wrote:
Yuki runs Comrades - now we're talking. Make it happen Brett.
Would love to see that
No. After my 2:36 marathon last year I trained for a 50 miler for 3 months with three 30 mile training runs. The race was the most miserable experience of my life. Mile 40-50 felt nothing like anything I ever experienced in my 10+ marathons and training for them. A 100 mile mountain race in my opinion is an entirely different sport than what we do.
You're already been proven to spew lies and non facts. First you write "Walmsley is on another raw talent level and the only guy to make FL nationals." Then with a quick Google search I find that Tim Freriks was also a FL finalist and an 8:58 3200m runner in high school with a low 15 min 5km to his name. Walmsley ran 29:08 for 10km in college. Hawks ran 28:53. Many would say a 10km is more indicative of ultra running ability than a 3km. Neither really should be though. Walmsley's times in college were much better at 1500m/3km/5km than his 10km. Hawks also made the US mountain running team at 12km and an NCAA DI All American cross country runner. Walmsley floundered at cross country at the DI level. It's not like Jim has gone out and run a 2:10 marathon. He's run a 1:08 half after college. I don't care if he was barely training or racking up a DUI in Montana at the time. If this dude is really the "great talent on another level" one would think he'd have run faster than that in his debut on less than ideal training. Same goes with his debuts at Lake Sonoma (6:41) or JFK50 (5:56). Something very drastic changed with him between 2015-2016, and it certainly wasn't just altitude training...
zzzz wrote:
No, Hawks was not faster than Walmsley in college. Walmsley's fastest steeplechase is better than Hawks' 28:53 10000m.
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By high school performances, Walmsley is on another raw talent level than all the guys on that list above. He's the only one to make the Footlocker Nationals, finishing in the middle. Those dudes would have been far back in high school cross if in the same race.
Don't get your hopes up, y'all.