and then on top of that I even stated that I would give Rupp 2 years to run 2:06 before I would put a judgement on him...and again he did it before the 2 years were up.
so try agin, bro
and then on top of that I even stated that I would give Rupp 2 years to run 2:06 before I would put a judgement on him...and again he did it before the 2 years were up.
so try agin, bro
Scorpion_runner wrote:
you're no expert wrote:
You said that you thought he was a 2:09 guy at best. Those are your words. It's not like you said it to Rupp personally to try to fire him up, it was just an idiotic analysis by you on a messageboard (amongst many other examples from you).
Thank you for taking things out of context to push your narrative.
These were my words from that post:
.............." I like NOP ( even though they are dirty...not muddy dirty, but dirty), and I like Rupp ( for what he is).
But the Golden Boy image is officially dead. Now it is time to generate some 2:06 times out of that so called great potential that he has.
I'll even take 2:07 ( but that's sub elite to me). The bottom line is that he has to start producing, and deliver upon the expectations. If not, no more talk of him being the next hammer from America.
****I'll give him the remainder of this year, as well as all of next year to produce a meaningful time*****
For the record, I think he is a 2:09 at best. However, I'm not a-hole, and I'm willing to be open-minded. But the whole
purpose of NOP is to generate top distance runners who can compete at a high level with the rest of the world...perio d "..................
read the part where I stated that I'm willing to be open minded because NOP's job is to produce fast americn distance runners! ...and where I said now it is time for him to generate a 2:06.....and I said 2:06 before anyone, and he ran 2:06
You didn't say 2:06 before anyone, and you did say, FOR THE RECORD, you think he is 2:09 at best. While you admitted the possibility of being wrong, as is true with any prediction that anyone makes, you wanted the world to know that you thought his limit was 2:09.
People made fun of you for it, and they were right. You were not right. You are no expert.
Zoologist turned Journalist wrote:
...but for the record, all you said was 2:09 as best. You were hoping he could run faster. But that wasn't on record. Sorry.
wrong it was on records:
read it again!
" I like NOP ( even though they are dirty...not muddy dirty, but dirty), and I like Rupp ( for what he is).
But the Golden Boy image is officially dead. Now it is time to generate some 2:06 times out of that so called great potential that he has.
I'll even take 2:07 ( but that's sub elite to me). The bottom line is that he has to start producing, and deliver upon the expectations. If not, no more talk of him being the next hammer from America.
****I'll give him the remainder of this year, as well as all of next year to produce a meaningful time*****
For the record, I think he is a 2:09 at best. However, I'm not a-hole, and I'm willing to be open-minded. But the whole
purpose of NOP is to generate top distance runners who can compete at a high level with the rest of the world...perio d "..................
READ THIS AGAIN ....OVER AND OVER:
***I'll give him the remainder of this year, as well as all of next year to produce a meaningful time*****
***I'll give him the remainder of this year, as well as all of next year to produce a meaningful time*****
I gave him 2 years and he did it in 2 years.
No try, bro.
After you leave this site, go take a course on reading comprehension and how to decipher information. I understand you are trolling just to troll, or just to create some type of online post battle. However, it is not going to happen here.
My words were clear. I clearly stated in that post that I was a supporter of Rupp and NOP, and it was time for him to produce a fast time ,and that I was giving him 2 years to do so. That was true support of him to produce a fast time, and he produced the 2:06 that I said it was time for him to produce, and he did it within the demanded time frame.
Post over about that, and I'm done with the conversation, because this is a post about Gwen and her running ability.
good day, sir.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
For the record, I think he is a 2:09 at best.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
After you leave this site, go take a course on reading comprehension and how to decipher information. I understand you are trolling just to troll, or just to create some type of online post battle. However, it is not going to happen here.
My words were clear. I clearly stated in that post that I was a supporter of Rupp and NOP, and it was time for him to produce a fast time ,and that I was giving him 2 years to do so. That was true support of him to produce a fast time, and he produced the 2:06 that I said it was time for him to produce, and he did it within the demanded time frame.
Post over about that, and I'm done with the conversation, because this is a post about Gwen and her running ability.
good day, sir.
Yes, your words were crystal clear. While being a supporter of him, you thought he was a 2:09 guy at best. So much so that you wanted it on the record. I'm here as the historian to remind you of that, since it is officially on the record as you requested.
It is relevant to the Gwen conversation because it shows your opinion and credibility on abilities are suspect. Your inputs should be taken with a grain of salt given your analytical history, including inputs on Gwen.
Ya, you might have this message board confused with your local mom & pop running shop; the place where you just bandy about horseshit predictions/asswhole opinions and then return them when people call you out on it. Sorry, pal.
"I'm a Browns fan even though their coach is shady, but Hugh Jackson has got to start winning some games. They had the draft picks stockpiled and now they have their franchise quarterback. So it's time to see some results. I'll give them 2 years to get the to the playoffs before I will say Hugh needs to be fired. For the record, I don't think he's good enough for them to even get to 4-12. However, I'm not an a-hole and I'm willing to be open minded. If they can get to playoffs I'll take it all back...or even 8-8 will be ok even though I don't think that's elite. Period."
Which part of this is me speaking as a fan, and which part of this is what I actually think will happen, and if I came back a year from now with the Browns in the playoffs...did I predict they would make it to the playoffs, and would I have the right to claim credit for that prediction?
*I meant to say their owner is shady, the coach seems personally fine, if crappy as a coach. But if they end up being good now I totally called it!
She will not make the US Oly Marathon Team.
Too many TRUE and GREAT marathon women in this country. Some of them get no attention on these boards and from the media.
Self-Promoting Nonsence wrote:
She will not make the US Oly Marathon Team.
Too many TRUE and GREAT marathon women in this country. Some of them get no attention on these boards and from the media.
^^^^ EXACTLY!
So...still no comment about how you were wrong about Rupp and wrong about cheetahs? What else could you be wrong about?
not so much wrote:
She's no spring chicken and she's not new to training. I don't see as much upside as every else seems to.
She is younger than Rupp.
younga wrote:
not so much wrote:
She's no spring chicken and she's not new to training. I don't see as much upside as every else seems to.
She is younger than Rupp.
However, she does not have the same running background or experience as Rupp.
Zoologist wrote:
So...still no comment about how you were wrong about Rupp and wrong about cheetahs? What else could you be wrong about?
Okay, I'll play you're little game. I see you can't read so I will help you.
This is what I posted it:
"But on this level, she is dealing with Cheetahs, Gazelles, Salukis, etc, who specialize in elite speed endurance, so she is not going to be able to succeed just buy being a talented athlete."
Cheetahs have SPEED ENDURANCE because they can hold their speed for 800 meters....and as distance runners we do 800 meter intervals ( and higher) to work on speed endurance. And distance runners will also race at 800m to work on speed endurance : Sifan, Mo, etc
Good bye.
As long as we are just posting our greatest Scorpion gaffes, my favorite was this gem, "btw, 31:55 wouldn't even get her out of the heats in a WC. That's turtle running to someone like dibaba who runs it in sub 30 mins, fourth fastest time in history. "
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8746884&page=6
Cheetahs have no speed endurance. They can hold their top speed for MAYBE a few hundred meters. By 800 meters they're already slowing down. And they do no repeats. One and done. Intervals might be for speed endurance, but that's not what a cheetah is doing. Are you arguing that Linden, Hasay, Huddle, Craggs are elite 800m racers (more likely 200-400m racers if we're comparing to a cheetah)? That's who she's up against. Not Ajee Wilson or Allyson Felix.
more scorpion classics wrote:
As long as we are just posting our greatest Scorpion gaffes, my favorite was this gem, "btw, 31:55 wouldn't even get her out of the heats in a WC. That's turtle running to someone like dibaba who runs it in sub 30 mins, fourth fastest time in history. "
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8746884&page=6
31:55 is turtle pace to someone like Dibaba, who ran sub 30. As well as someone like Ayana, who
can jog 32 mins for 10k.
lol
Zoologist wrote:
Cheetahs have no speed endurance. They can hold their top speed for MAYBE a few hundred meters. By 800 meters they're already slowing down. And they do no repeats. One and done. Intervals might be for speed endurance, but that's not what a cheetah is doing. Are you arguing that Linden, Hasay, Huddle, Craggs are elite 800m racers (more likely 200-400m racers if we're comparing to a cheetah)? That's who she's up against. Not Ajee Wilson or Allyson Felix.
You read stuff and just make up your own story for the hell of trolling or arguing or whatever you like to do.
It's quite wonderful.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
more scorpion classics wrote:
As long as we are just posting our greatest Scorpion gaffes, my favorite was this gem, "btw, 31:55 wouldn't even get her out of the heats in a WC. That's turtle running to someone like dibaba who runs it in sub 30 mins, fourth fastest time in history. "
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8746884&page=631:55 is turtle pace to someone like Dibaba, who ran sub 30. As well as someone like Ayana, who
can jog 32 mins for 10k.
lol
The point is that you don't know anything about the sport because there are no heats of the 10000m at the WC. It's just another in the list of idiotic statements from you.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.