FAM IS BACK BABY!!! Sub 4 in the mile at 40 y.o attempt!!!

Nice to hear the thoughts and experience from the real deal. Thanks for posting.

But it's clear that for Fam it's all about the money (selling merch) and the attention (turning it into a film, really?). I don't begrudge anyone trying to make a buck, but this doesn't seem very sincere.

sub4@40 wrote:

It certainly is a tough challenge, i felt the key for me was maintaining my 800m speed with decent endurance. Running 59/60 per 400 is much more palatable when you have 1.48 800 pace to draw off. My goal was to have good 5k endurance (14.28 in Armagh) into Spring whilst still having good speed (1.52 indoors). If i achieved those goals I knew I had a good 1500/Mile in the Middle. Those that have tried in recent years seemed to not have enough leg speed and sub4 mile pace was too close to their maximum to be able to cruise the first 2 laps. Perfect conditions and well paced race are also a factor which I got in Nashville. Be interesting to see if another name can be added to the list!!!!

TW

Great post from a great runner!

Regina Jacobs, 39.

It's a lot harder for a women to go sub4 for1500 than a man for a mile.

Look at me. Look at me!!

RiRi wrote:

Who is the oldest to go sub 4 for the first time in their life. And at what age

Regina Jacobs, 39.

It's a lot harder for a women to go sub4 for1500 than a man for a mile.

As late as last year he was training for 100-milers - maybe there's something to quantity after all...

https://ultrarunnerpodcast.com/anthony-famigletti/

Thread title is misleading and poorly structured. Shame on OP.

Nike, Alan Webb's old sponsor, has set up the Breaking4 project for Fam.

Fam seems like the type who laughs when those who don't like his public persona lash out on LetsRun or elsewhere.

Good for him, this focus on running a masters sub-4. I hope he succeeds. It's fun for me to follow an attempt at something unique and potentially attainable -- and which is harmless to others, except those who have problems with other people's successes and motivations and personalities.

As for Alan, no doubt he's having fun wearing the coach's hat, and being able to share his considerable knowledge to this worthy endeavor. Good for him, too. I hope one day he'll go for a masters sub-4, as well -- if he wants to, not to please those idjits who say "he SHOULD".

Ben L Wrong wrote:

moist wrote:

If Fam does it, could it mean Webb has potential as a coach? His lack of commitment to a single program has always bugged me.

Probably that lack of commitment to a single program is the reason for him being a coach. Lets see what he can do with the mix of programs from Salazar, Vigilante, Raczko, etc.

I don't think mixing programs is necessarily the way to go, though it's certainly good to learn from multiple sources.

On the other hand, I think that athletes who had some great success and who also made a lot of mistakes have a good background to become coaches.

sub4@40 wrote:

It certainly is a tough challenge, i felt the key for me was maintaining my 800m speed with decent endurance. Running 59/60 per 400 is much more palatable when you have 1.48 800 pace to draw off. My goal was to have good 5k endurance (14.28 in Armagh) into Spring whilst still having good speed (1.52 indoors). If i achieved those goals I knew I had a good 1500/Mile in the Middle. Those that have tried in recent years seemed to not have enough leg speed and sub4 mile pace was too close to their maximum to be able to cruise the first 2 laps. Perfect conditions and well paced race are also a factor which I got in Nashville. Be interesting to see if another name can be added to the list!!!!

TW

Thanks for the thoughts! Do you happen to know if the list is only 3 deep?

There also was a Russian guy that ran a 3:42 1500m at 40. I think the IAAF site only had a 4:01.XX mile for mile. He still is running some insane times even as of last year.

Blitzkrieg BLITZKRIEG wrote:

WEBB IS BACK BABY!!!!

Webb?

IS BACK BABY!

Webb is Back Baby! Which plan did Fam sign up for?

https://www.rundoyen.com/alan/

800m masters record could be 1:47 in a couple years if 38 year old Bram Som keeps going. Takes out elites in sub 50 an easily goes 500, 550. Looks like he must run some 600s in practice at 1:16.

I am sure he could run 53/54.

I used to like Fam but he startred supporting Trump on Twitter during campaign and had to give him the ol’ unfollow.

slowerthanu wrote:

About six weeks late for an April Fool's Day joke....bad timing.

??time to grow up, get a real job you hate, a shrewish (Jewish) wife, screwed up kid, and a pot belly like the rest of us.

In what way do you see this being good for the sport? It's a sideshow. It won't attract attention to developing athletes or current elites. A former elite breaking a barrier at age 40 that would be completely unreachable to anybody that age who himself wasn't elite isn't likely to inspire hobby joggers. I don't understand why stunts like this so often are met with this hollow sentiment, "it will be good for the sport."

Ben L Wrong wrote:

I think he could crack 4:02...not much better. But this is good for the sport.

I'll enjoy the trip.

I thought Tony Young did it around 04 but he ran 4:07

https://www.runnersworld.com/masters/tony-young

I would not say it is impossible but pretty close to it. I know Fam has been running road races and is probably in decent aerobic shape, but the lack of speed it what's going to be the problem. I am a former 1:47 800m runner, at age 40 I could not break 2:00m. When you stop doing speed work, it is amazing how quick it goes away, especially as you age. Btw, if Fam can't do 1:52 half mile tempo run, there is no way he is going to run sub-4.