Leaving the 5/10K open to Semenya might be seen as a troll job by the IAAF. They suspect as I do that Caster has to do very little training to run 1:55, but would actually have to put in miles, workouts and even lose weight to compete the 5K, yet probably still would struggle to get under 15:20, being a non-factor against the tiny Africans. Last laugh, IAAF!
VIPAM wrote:
Caster most likely be the one to push Almaz Ayana to a sub 29 minute 10000m or Caster will be the one to accomplish said feat.
No Caster Semenya would not be on the same lap with Ayana in a 10000, She Does not have the body type for the 5000 and 10000, she could be very good in the 400 (Meaning 48-49) and she medaled in the 1500 so she obviously can do good there, i Don't think she can come within 2 minutes of Ayana's World Record.
LOL
She is going to get destroyed at 5000/10000m. 90 + percent aerobic!
She barely could hang at 1500m. took the bronze and had to work hard as hell to get that as queen Faith dusted the field.
The more aerobic the race is the more her body type will work against her.
Well done IAAF ...well done!
We can know get back to true women's running.
YouHaveAStub wrote:
Stubb wrote:
stubborn dude
You're an idiot.
If anything this proves Caster ISN'T doing this to give herself an advantage. If she was, she would lower T levels and continue to compete in her best event the 800m.
SHE has BALLS.
She wants to keep them. Women don't generally have them. Its usually an indication they're men.
It seems to me that a 'woman' with a no female reproductive organs, and a set of balls, is a clerical error at the time of birth.
Caster is an inch shorter and 30 lbs. heavier than Rupp... will never be competitive in the women’s 5 & 10, EVER!
5 & 10 won't go extremely well wrote:
Not many from either gender or combination of genders can race well at 5'10" 160 lbs. over 5000 & 10000.
Chris Solinsky says hi!
Slow Bro wrote:
5 & 10 won't go extremely well wrote:
Not many from either gender or combination of genders can race well at 5'10" 160 lbs. over 5000 & 10000.
Chris Solinsky says hi!
Hence the 'not many'
Stopcecil! wrote:
She will get slaughtered at those distances.
Exactly, it’s a stupid presumption to assert that because Semenya dominates women’s 800m events due to hi T levels she will be able to adapt this advantage to the longer distances.
Does anyone actually believe that David Rudisha could come close to Almaz Ayana in a 10000m race even if he trained exclusively for the event ? Of course not he would be lapped multiple times. - But somehow Semenya could possibly adapt due to her unique physiology? -Laughable.
Rod Dixon
1500m Olympic medalist >NYC Marathon champ
Tirunesh Dibaba 5000m soecialist>sub 2:18 marathon, many said I was crazy when I said she,would be next sub 30 minute 10000m
Kenenisa Bekele and Haile G.
both moved up to marathon all time list even with their elite 1500m speed
The list goes on of athletes many think can't move up successfully but several athletes do. Now Caster may not be a force at 10000m but to say the 5000m is out of the question is absurd. Caster has run 4:00 1500m and not be all out, SURELY can run 3-4 seconds faster. And with weight lost from higher mileage and a couple years steady training could be a elite 5000m runner on the high end of Caster' s range.
No way no how wrote:
Caster is an inch shorter and 30 lbs. heavier than Rupp... will never be competitive in the women’s 5 & 10, EVER!
Sure about that:
http://club.runthrough.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/GG-4.jpgSlow Bro wrote:
5 & 10 won't go extremely well wrote:
Not many from either gender or combination of genders can race well at 5'10" 160 lbs. over 5000 & 10000.
Chris Solinsky says hi!
Are you like this outside of Letsrun? I didn't state absolutes. You didn't catch me in a false statement. Chris Solinsky is not 5'10". If you want to compare Semenya's build to a male runner, look at Nick Symmonds.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
No way no how wrote:
Caster is an inch shorter and 30 lbs. heavier than Rupp... will never be competitive in the women’s 5 & 10, EVER!
Sure about that:
http://club.runthrough.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/GG-4.jpg
That guy is not competitive with the top women either.
VIPAM wrote:
The Guardian and very reputable newspaper have reported...
Sorry you lost me at hello
Jo72 wrote:
She should do the 3000m steeple instead. 800/1500 speed would matter more here, she is tall and strong which helps with the steeples.
But it is getting ridiculous. The IAAF has to find a ruling for Semenya-like cases that is not restricted to certain events. They did actually worse this time than last time because the inclusion of the 1500 where no advantage was found in their study and the exclusion of hammer (or whatever where large advantages were found) makes it really look like a ruling taylored towards Semenya.
It no advantage is found in the 1500m then why does she not reduce her testosterone levels and still be s medal threat. She knows she's have no chance even if you don't
She will still have an advantage as the strength built over years of higher testosterone us not going to disappear overnight.
She's not even a great athlete. She is an average runner by elite standards with high testosterone.
50-1:55- 4:00 show she is going to struggle to break 15. Bring on Ventolin!
VIPAM wrote:
Rod Dixon
1500m Olympic medalist >NYC Marathon champ
Tirunesh Dibaba 5000m soecialist>sub 2:18 marathon, many said I was crazy when I said she,would be next sub 30 minute 10000m
Kenenisa Bekele and Haile G.
both moved up to marathon all time list even with their elite 1500m speed
The list goes on of athletes many think can't move up successfully but several athletes do. Now Caster may not be a force at 10000m but to say the 5000m is out of the question is absurd. Caster has run 4:00 1500m and not be all out, SURELY can run 3-4 seconds faster. And with weight lost from higher mileage and a couple years steady training could be a elite 5000m runner on the high end of Caster' s range.
Not really built like Haile and Dixon came from high mileage Lydiard training and always did longer races. He even won our National xc as a guest.
There is no evidence she can go sub 15 and definitely not hang onto sub 14:30 pace to win medsks she is used to.
Her size and PRs are similar to mine. I ran 14:40.
Carter's on maybe 50., 1:55, and 4 flat but none of those races appeared to be mad efforts. In fact Caster has appeared only to run as hard as needed to win since emerging back on top of the 800m scene.
I'm pretty certain all out efforts in the middle of the season would produce pb's close to 49.2,, 1:52.2, and at least 3:52. What sre Casters true limits in those events, without accurate knowledge the 5000m cant be accurately predicted or even ballpark. I will guess probably could never approach sub 14:20 but Caster ceryainly could train and become at least a sub 14:40.
Shoebacca wrote:
I can't see Caster succeeding at 10k any time soon. Might get lucky in a few slow 5k races. There is no way Caster has a high mileage background.
She has too much muscle mass. I don't see her being one of those people who can get down to elite 5k/10k body type.
1440 wrote:
Her size and PRs are similar to mine. I ran 14:40.
Were you faster at 800 and 1500 than Semenya?
On my worst day I was faster then Caster' s 800m pb, never ran the 1500 or mile in competition.
