Makes no sense. 1500 would be easier to compare to everything else. More runners would be trying to break 4
Makes no sense. 1500 would be easier to compare to everything else. More runners would be trying to break 4
4 laps.
Less of a change from when it was a full mile.
Fewer starting lines to paint on the track.
(etc.)
Explain wrote:
Makes no sense. 1500 would be easier to compare to everything else. More runners would be trying to break 4
The 1500 makes no sense on a 400 meter track. Never has, never will.
In 1979, we raced on 440yd. tracks mostly. In 1980, we raced on both 440yd. tracks and 400m tracks nearly evenly. By 1981 we raced solely on 400m tracks. The initial goal with 1600 & 3200 was to give athletes some continuity.
Running On Empathy wrote:
Explain wrote:
Makes no sense. 1500 would be easier to compare to everything else. More runners would be trying to break 4
The 1500 makes no sense on a 400 meter track. Never has, never will.
Poor boy. Do you want a 4800m (12 laps) or 5200m (13 laps) track race?
Yea except in a 5k you start on a turn like every distance race, except the 1500.
Running On Empathy wrote:
Explain wrote:
Makes no sense. 1500 would be easier to compare to everything else. More runners would be trying to break 4
The 1500 makes no sense on a 400 meter track. Never has, never will.
Doesn't even make sense on the indoor 200m tracks the nice schools have.
Explain wrote:
Explain why high schoolers race 1600 and not 1500
You understand that high school runners don't really choose which event to run, right? High school runners race the 1600m because that is the event that is contested at high school meets. They would be DQed if they ran the 1500m instead.
It's because Americans think that by running the 1600 they are now joining the rest of the world in being "metric". Actually running the 1600 is a poor choice. Just run the mile as it is still a classic race. Otherwise, join the rest of the world and run the 1500. The nice thing about the 1500 is that you start with a 100m straight instead of an immediate turn as you do in the 1600/mile.
I ran a 1,500 indoor, 1,600 outdoor, mile outdoor, mile indoor, 3,000 outdoor, 3,000 indoor, 3,200 outdoor, 2 mile outdoor, and 2 mile indoor while in high school. I also ran 2.5 miles and 5k cross country!!
Roadrace distances were 1 mile, 3 mile, 5k, 4 mile, 5 mile, 6 mile, 10k, and 15 miles. I also ran a 1 hour on the track.
Explain wrote: Explain why high schoolers race 1600 and not 1500
In 1897, Edward J. Goodwin introduced bill no. 246 to the Indiana General Assembly, "A Bill for an act introducing a new mathematical truth..." and those good gentlemen actually debated whether to define pi as 3. astonishingly, they approved of the idea and the bill was passed to the State Senate, where it was debated for half an hour during which time one Senator asked the seemingly relevant question of whether they had authority to define mathematical truth. finding themselves unable to decide the matter, Senator Hubbell proposed a motion that the bill be "indefinitely postponed," a motion that was carried unanimoulsy. and there the situation stands. the Indiana State Senate cannot decide whether pi = 3 or not.
emboldened by the mathematical indecision of their peers, generations of American high school students have failed utterly to learn such useful pre-requisites to modern life as their three and three quarter times table, their 12 and one half times table, and they therefore run track races with laps counted only in integer values of 1, 2, 4, and 8.
when they get to college they are astonished to discover that (25 x 72) = (30 x 60) which means that if you run each lap in 72 seconds you can run 10,000 metres in 30 minutes, and, having blown their minds they go and smoke some weed and in a state of complete delirium they discover that this also means that you can run 5,000 metres in 15 minutes if you just do the totally unthinkable thing and run 12 and a half laps at that pace. oh my god! how utterly european.
by the time they graduate college an insufferable amount of money in debt they realise that time is money, so obviously it costs more to run longer races and they reduce the cost by cutting a quarter lap off the 1600m to make it a more affordable alternative.
cheers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_BillI think it has to do with starting blocks. Normally, the block cart goes from the 100 start to the commons start and then to the 300 mark for the long hurdles and then down to the 200 start. If they ran the 1500, the blocks would have to go to the 15 start, then back to the common start then back to the 300 etc. #hassle
Much better question would be, “why do College and Pros run the 15&30 instead of the 16&32?”
Explain wrote:
Makes no sense. 1500 would be easier to compare to everything else. More runners would be trying to break 4
The betteer question: Why aren't higher levels just running the 1600m?
My question is why do NY high school girls run the 1500/3k while the boys are running the 16/32.
In 1980 N.J. scholastic track went metric. The 1500 and 3000 replaced the mile and two mile. The reason was that the 1600 and 3200 being a little shorter than the two former races would cheapen the performances. For two years I don't recall any problem. The kids and the coaches adjusted. The coaches, of course being track fans and having watched many Olympic Games were accustomed to both races, although the 3000 was not run by males in the Olympics at that time. The National Federation pressured N.J. to replace those two international races distances with the 1600 and 3200 citing that runners could easily get confused with the 1500 and 3000. In the two years that I observed our "experiment" I never saw any confusion at all. So, now we continue to run the 1600 and 3200. Many call in the mile and two mile even though everyone knows that they are a bit shorter.
Iowa does the Girls 1500/3000, Boys 1600/3200, also...
WHY???
Angelo Mysterioso wrote:
Iowa does the Girls 1500/3000, Boys 1600/3200, also...
WHY???
It was not all that long ago that Iowa girls played 6 on 6 basketball...
To have different distances for boys/girls is not that uncommon. Until recently in Germany Under 16 boys ran 1000 and 3000, girls 800 and 2000. I believe 600, 1000 and 2000m are still common in Switzerland maybe up to under 18 boys and girls.
The 1500m are admittedly odd but as someone already said it is fortunate to start with a straight instead of a curve in an event that starts comparably fast and is not run in lanes. 1000m and the mile are not run as frequently internationally on a high level but it can get messy within the first curve there.
Running On Empathy wrote:
Explain wrote:
Makes no sense. 1500 would be easier to compare to everything else. More runners would be trying to break 4
The 1500 makes no sense on a 400 meter track. Never has, never will.
I totally agree with that. I have aleays agreed with that but I will say the only excuse someone could say for the 1500 being run to make some sort of sense is that you can get ion better position with a 100m straight at the beginning of the race. other than that the 1600/3200 makes the most sense.