How do you spell Snowflake? Penn State.
All outdoor activities aren't banned however. The more expensive official Penn State outdoor activities will continue to be offered even though an official "said Outing Club activities were rated high risk because they take place in remote environments with poor cell service and distance from emergency services."
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/penn_state_bans_outdoors_club.html
LookLikeDemocrats wrote:
They look like typical shrieking, whiny, wimpy democrats.
amen!
I went to Penn State for undergrad, and am now in med school. You can count this among the reasons that PSU will never see a donation from me once I'm making good money.
Off the top of my head, I believe the accepted estimate is that about 300,000 Americans die each year from obesity related causes. The risk associated with letting a club go outside pales in comparison to the risk of not encouraging people to be active.
We all know from what Joepa did to those kids that they prefer indoor shower activites
Let me put on my tinfoil hat: the University offers similar trips for much higher cost (staffing and travel--I worked for the Outdoor programs in grad school and saw the trip budget) and does not want the competition.
Nothing is going to stop kids from doing these things on their own. They just do not have access to student funds (if they get any from student fees) or be able to hold meetings on campus. With social media, I am not sure this is going to be that big of a deal, but on the surface it does look silly.
sad alum wrote:
I went to Penn State for undergrad, and am now in med school. You can count this among the reasons that PSU will never see a donation from me once I'm making good money.
Off the top of my head, I believe the accepted estimate is that about 300,000 Americans die each year from obesity related causes. The risk associated with letting a club go outside pales in comparison to the risk of not encouraging people to be active.
Yeah but obese people are always close to their cell phones and emergency services.
Oh, if the university really wants to make students safer, it might consider getting rid of fraternities...
rojo wrote:
an official "said Outing Club activities were rated high risk because they take place in remote environments with poor cell service and distance from emergency services."
You folks may find this hard to believe, but there was a time when people regularly went outdoors WITHOUT A PHONE! It's a wonder any of us survived.
This is truly pathetic.
Not sure how you can say that they're snowflakes - it's certainly the school's risk management department and lawyers who are behind this.
The Left ruins everything they touch. Every. Single. Thing.
Think education, religion, free speech, race relations. I could go on and on. We all know.
I'm a former student, now faculty at another major public university that made a similar move a few years ago. It has absolutely nothing to do with thinking kids are snowflakes. The outdoor club was funded with student government money and the cost to go on trips was pretty small. The University has its own outfitters program which also leads trips but charges 10x as much. They also have more control over activities and therefore reduce their liability. As with everything in the world it really just comes down to money.
For the record, I'm not calling the kids snowflakes. I'm calling the administration that.
Yes, I get it. You don't want to get sued but come on. People wonder why universities cost 60k per year now. This is an example of why.
Thank you rojo for calling this out. I'm a Penn State alum, completely embarrassed, AGAIN. I agree with the poster who said they should get rid of greek life. THAT would be much more effective if the PSU admin is really concerned about the well being of its students. And yes, if you know central PA there are plenty of options for outdoor exploration just outside of campus, but the message this sends is pretty ridiculous. We overlooked child welfare for decades, we let our fraternities abuse (and actually kill) their own and be predators towards women so as not to jeopardize future and current alumni contributions. But kids going outdoors, better do something about that now! Ugh.
rojo wrote:
How do you spell Snowflake? Penn State.
All outdoor activities aren't banned however. The more expensive official Penn State outdoor activities will continue to be offered even though an official "said Outing Club activities were rated high risk because they take place in remote environments with poor cell service and distance from emergency services."
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2018/04/18/Penn-state-university-ends-Outing-Club-trips/stories/201804180168?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebookhttp://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/penn_state_bans_outdoors_club.html
I don't think this tells the whole story and you are simply using this as an excuse to call a certain group of people snowflakes. Which does very little except make you look a jaded old fool.
Funny thing is now they will just go on these trips without University Club affiliation which could result in the kids taking "more risk" or end up in more dangerous situations.
Luv2Run wrote:
Nothing is going to stop kids from doing these things on their own. They just do not have access to student funds (if they get any from student fees) or be able to hold meetings on campus. With social media, I am not sure this is going to be that big of a deal, but on the surface it does look silly.
People who are already outdoor enthusiasts will certainly continue to do these things on their own, but a big part of the point of college clubs is to offer the chance to try something new to beginners and to develop greater interest/passion among novices. There are plenty of people who could either become active or lazy during college just depending on the opportunities that are readily available.
Meanwhile the frats will continue to get dangerously drunk while sexually assaulting woman and the football team will continue to draw 100,000+ to watch 18-22 year olds inflict brain damage upon one another.
Go Long wrote:
Thank you rojo for calling this out. I'm a Penn State alum, completely embarrassed, AGAIN. I agree with the poster who said they should get rid of greek life. THAT would be much more effective if the PSU admin is really concerned about the well being of its students. And yes, if you know central PA there are plenty of options for outdoor exploration just outside of campus, but the message this sends is pretty ridiculous. We overlooked child welfare for decades, we let our fraternities abuse (and actually kill) their own and be predators towards women so as not to jeopardize future and current alumni contributions. But kids going outdoors, better do something about that now! Ugh.
For four years I walked to and from classes at Penn State, uphill, both ways, in the snow, without a fvking cellphone. The entire time I carried this Penn Relays watch with me. This watch was on your daddy’s wrist when he was shot down over Hanoi. He was captured, put in a Vietnamese prison camp. He knew if the gooks ever saw the watch it’d be confiscated, taken away. The way your dad looked at it, that watch was your birthright. He’d be damned if any slopes were gonna put their greasy yellow hands on his boy’s birthright. So he hid it in the one place he knew he could hide something. His ass. Five long years, he wore this watch up his ass. Then he died of dysentery, he gave me the watch. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family.
And now, little man, I give the watch to you.
That was a great scene. By the way, surprised ticks were not mentioned as a reason as that area is infested, with more and more lyme cases each year.
Only snowflakes require a school sanctioned club to entice them outdoors.