Podcast with Tyler Andrews - He Sucked in High School (18+ Minutes), Now He May Break 50k World Record

Apophis99 wrote:

and your time is...? wrote:

That's pure ignorance and an insecure sub elite comment

Wrong.

It's worth noting he didn't go to a college intending to be a runner and then transferred to Tufts and came out with some solid PRS. 14:40s in the 5k.

know what his current PRs are? 2:15 in the marathon I think

STRIVEtime wrote:

Another Stunt Run wrote:

Not even a race, but a stunt run with pacers.

If I've learned anything about TA's training and racing over the past few years, then it's likely that he's going to have a few pacers jump in and out of the first twenty miles, run the next 10 on an extreme downhill without noting it, and finish the last mile on the track. He'll use GPS, but fail to upload the data. If he gets this bs WR, then he'll scream his own name from the mountain tops for all to hear. If he misses it, he'll glaze over the fact in a random cat-photo instagram post, go into hiding for six weeks then come back out the other side with some other bs stunt to overtrain for. #TimeToLie

Hi OkayTUNA!

I'm kind of torn in how I feel about this record attempt. I mean you could've listened to the podcast first and realized that the pacers are not allowed to jump in and out in order for this race to be officially sanctioned by the USATF. Even slowing down for a lap and jumping back in as they get lapped will not be allowed for the pacers. But besides that I don't understand the point of having this race on the track, and it is completely beyond me why they wouldn't want to stream this given all the "hype" surrounding it. I feel like the only reason Letsrun gave an interview is because Hoka is a sponsor, but you can even hear it in Weldon's voice during the show that even he doesn't fully understand what the point of this is. I think TA is a good runner, but his marathon PR is on a course that is comparable to the also downhill assisted CIM. So maybe comparable to your best race on a flat course? I mean if you're not breaking top 3 at the trials, what's the point of going anyways, why not give TA someone to actually race?

Apophis99 wrote:

FrenchDawg wrote:

Such a tired and lazy meme.

How strong could an event possibly be where an 18-minute 5k guy could EVER progress to a point where he could content for the world record? This is a feel-good inspirations piece for shitty joggers.

The idiocy of the event is self-evident given these facts.

Why isn’t he trying to contend for the marathon world record? Oh that’s right, because it’s a real event that draws real competitors.

He may as well go for the backward run 20k world record while he’s at it.

50K World Record = 2:43:48 = average pace of 5:16 per mile for 50K = equivalent marathon time of 2:16:10 = 5:11.5 average pace for 26.219 miles.

Marathon in 2:03:33 = equivalent 50K time of 2:28:24 = average pace of 4:46 per mile for 50K.

There needs to a lot more analysis and discussion about this record attempt.

The entire "World of Running at LetsRun.com" is watching this race.

bill parcells wrote:

STRIVEtime wrote:

If I've learned anything about TA's training and racing over the past few years, then it's likely that he's going to have a few pacers jump in and out of the first twenty miles, run the next 10 on an extreme downhill without noting it, and finish the last mile on the track. He'll use GPS, but fail to upload the data. If he gets this bs WR, then he'll scream his own name from the mountain tops for all to hear. If he misses it, he'll glaze over the fact in a random cat-photo instagram post, go into hiding for six weeks then come back out the other side with some other bs stunt to overtrain for. #TimeToLie

Hi OkayTUNA!

Seriously. TUNA would find a way to hate on whoever cures cancer. Somehow he finds pride in being a giant d*ck. I mean, he's obsessed with Tyler Andrews. He mentiones TA in almost every one of his running log posts. Then comes to bash whoever else he knows (typically those who are faster than him).

I'm glad Tyler is taking a stab at the record. He's going for it. TUNA is just farting around with junk mileage, hate, and a bunch of 2:21-25 marathon performances.

DV = The Biggest Hater/Loser wrote:

bill parcells wrote:

Hi OkayTUNA!

Seriously. TUNA would find a way to hate on whoever cures cancer. Somehow he finds pride in being a giant d*ck. I mean, he's obsessed with Tyler Andrews. He mentiones TA in almost every one of his running log posts. Then comes to bash whoever else he knows (typically those who are faster than him).

I'm glad Tyler is taking a stab at the record. He's going for it. TUNA is just farting around with junk mileage, hate, and a bunch of 2:21-25 marathon performances.

On its face, it comes across as a lot of hate, but if you do your research Andrews is completely deserving. His workouts are often faster than his races, to the point of being absurd and unbelievable. Andrews puts himself out there on purpose (to maintain his sponsorship), so he's going to solicit haters, and I believe in this case, it is more than warranted.

STRIVEtime wrote:

Another Stunt Run wrote:

Not even a race, but a stunt run with pacers.

If I've learned anything about TA's training and racing over the past few years, then it's likely that he's going to have a few pacers jump in and out of the first twenty miles, run the next 10 on an extreme downhill without noting it, and finish the last mile on the track. He'll use GPS, but fail to upload the data. If he gets this bs WR, then he'll scream his own name from the mountain tops for all to hear. If he misses it, he'll glaze over the fact in a random cat-photo instagram post, go into hiding for six weeks then come back out the other side with some other bs stunt to overtrain for. #TimeToLie

This - look at the workouts he does then the terrible races

The self-promotion and odd "record" attempts have created a lot of animosity toward Tyler, and sponsored puff pieces like this from the BroJos are more fuel for the hate fire. I think TA is a good person, but there is something off about his approach to the sport. He's like Mike Wardian with way less self-awareness.

come on wrote:

The self-promotion and odd "record" attempts have created a lot of animosity toward Tyler, and sponsored puff pieces like this from the BroJos are more fuel for the hate fire. I think TA is a good person, but there is something off about his approach to the sport. He's like Mike Wardian with way less self-awareness.

Wow, really surprised by the animosity towards Tyler on this board. What did he do to deserve this kind of hate lol?

FWIW, I've been following the guy for the last 2 years and he seems like a straight-up typical runner who goes for his dreams, whatever that is to him (and let's be honest, not everyone can aspire to be Eliud Kipchoge and try to break the WR). Dude is doing his best with what he's got, don't see anything wrong with that. If you feel that running 5:15/mile pace to break a 50K WR is incredibly soft, go on and show us how it's done.

But sitting on your ass and spouting vile comments on a thread (which sadly looks like peak LetsRun culture btw) which is supposedly intended to give positive exposure to a record attempt, however odd it is, isn't the way to go.

Something must've happened for you to carry this amount of ill-will towards TA. What is it?

For 1 the guy is arrogant in a very sour way. I mean he brags about winning races where there is no competition. He calls treadmill times his PR. Posts workout times that he clearly didn't do based on his performances. Underperforms regularly. Leaves out important notes about races such as the fact that the race drops thousands of feet. I mean I could go on

Has this guy run a marathon before? If so what is his best time? The reason I ask is because the world 50k record on the road is 5:16 per mile pace, so he has to go through the Marathon in approximately 2:17:48, assuming even splits on his way to 50K to hit 2:43:38 . I wish him good luck, but it seems like whoever breaks this record would likely have a PR in the Marathon in the 2:11-2: 13 at the very least.

Your headlines sucks. I think it's mean spirited. What if a young man is trying his hardest and is only an 18' runner? For cross country no less. That does not mean he sucks. Stop being such elitists.

Do treadmill PRs count? According to him it does

Another Stunt Run wrote:

Not even a race, but a stunt run with pacers.

Sounds just like the Salazar-Rupp race strategy. There must be personal pacers to earn Rupp-certification.

running now. updates on twitter

https://twitter.com/tylercandrews?lang=en&lang=en

20k at 65:25. Not too shabby thus far.

they're exactly on pace. I've got a spreadsheet going with every 2k split, cumulative time, record splits, and predicted finish.

25k at 1:21:47

26k at 1:25

I feel like their social media game on this is kind of weak. What, no periscope?

reed wrote:

they're exactly on pace. I've got a spreadsheet going with every 2k split, cumulative time, record splits, and predicted finish.

Hope this fellow makes it. I can only dream to run that fast.