How to get out of the 4x8 (already had a talk with coach)

What gives a coach "god" status is that s/he is the person who decides what people in the team get to do and not do. It's the nature of team sports. You have every right to talk with your coach about you want to do or not do. In this case it didn't go your way. Your options now, as far as I can tell, are to quit the team and make your big drop at an all comers meet, or try for your big breakthrough on your relay leg and plan on making the big breakthrough in that other meet that you mention.

You're being a diva, and while your times show you've put effort in, you're not at the level where it matters if you're a second or two slower in your individual event. Run the relay and get race experience, and a workout. You're not good enough for this to be an issue.

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Ok I think that is a fair point. Sure, I'm being a little dramatic, we all have been at some point. I just want to get my high school running off to a good start and I don't want my hard work to waste. I understand if this is cringe, but that's why I am being anonymous. I don't really care if some random guy thinks this is cringe/overdramatic because they'll never know who I am.

For the last time, I KNOW 2:06 IS NOT A COMPETITIVE TIME. That's why I want a good race, in order to get closer

Hey, it could be worse. Your coach is nowhere near as bad as mine.

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8745440

Our top guy once ran a 1:52 relay split way out front by himself in a smaller invitational 4x800. It was awesome. Just run it hard. Jogging it in 2:25 when you can go around 2:06 would be a disgrace.

^^^ couldn’t have said it any better myself.

Especially #3 - if any athlete told me that, she/he wouldn’t be racing at any meet for a long time.

zzzz wrote:

Our top guy once ran a 1:52 relay split way out front by himself in a smaller invitational 4x800. It was awesome. Just run it hard. Jogging it in 2:25 when you can go around 2:06 would be a disgrace.

I've done 4x8 splits this season, and gone all out. That's good and well but not conducive to fast running (no competition), not accurate timing and obviously the result isn't on milesplit

Btw, what was the guy's PR

Too many bad HS coaches out there.

They need to do something else after school.

And it seems like every 3rd person that I run into in the running community is a "coach."

Most of them always seem to claim that their training methods are the best & only way.

And some of them have very little coaching experience other than reading books & magazines on running.

So you quit cross country after 2 races?

Should have stuck it out...most jv seasons are 5 meets or less.

You will quit track too.

PIssed off 800/1600 guy wrote:

zzzz wrote:

Our top guy once ran a 1:52 relay split way out front by himself in a smaller invitational 4x800. It was awesome. Just run it hard. Jogging it in 2:25 when you can go around 2:06 would be a disgrace.

I've done 4x8 splits this season, and gone all out. That's good and well but not conducive to fast running (no competition), not accurate timing and obviously the result isn't on milesplit

Btw, what was the guy's PR

The guy's high school PR was eventually 1:51.13. He ran a lot of 1:52s all by himself, in minor meets (no competition) and relays. Milesplit didn't exist then.

You'll have chances to get good results. It's not like your Milesplit page will be deceiving by the end of your junior year.

Start wearing Trump shirts and hats to practice and meets. That democrat coach will be irate.

Macdaddy wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) You can run the 4x800 and still run a PR in the open 800.

2) Coach gets to decide who runs what and when. Period.

3) NO high school kid, no matter how good should ever tell his coach that they aren't going to try. If I were your coach and you told me that, you wouldn't be running in the meet at all in any event. So, your coach wasn't a hard ass at all. Kind of a wimp if you ask me.

4) You have the wrong attitude here.

^^^ couldn’t have said it any better myself.

Especially #3 - if any athlete told me that, she/he wouldn’t be racing at any meet for a long time.

Grrr. You're not getting it. I wasn't the only one - all four of us talked to he guy, said we didn't want to run it because it's pointless if we weren't going to try. The guy is a moron. He's a nice guy but has no clue what he's talking about. There is nothing morally wrong with telling somebody they're wrong if they just plain are. Tell me, how does fielding a 4x8 team benefit anyone but the coach's ego? We got to the point when talking to him but we weren't blatantly rude and flipping him off or anything like that, so don't say that we're just bratty freshmen.

Track is an individual sport. Think of it this way. If I was a teacher at some university and the football coach died, and somehow I became the replacement, I wouldn't just immediately pick and choose what positions certain athletes play, "because I'm the coach and my word is law" - I'd recognize that they probably know what they're doing better than I do. I would just be there to make sure they weren't doing drugs or something. If they want to improve, that's up to them.

I'm probably just going to quit my HS team this summer and attempt to race unattached, though that hasn't gone well in the past.

CorrectAnswer wrote:

Start wearing Trump shirts and hats to practice and meets. That democrat coach will be irate.

Agree! Too many democrat pieces of trash in education and coaching.

Winners don't wuit and quitters don't win wrote:

So you quit cross country after 2 races?

Should have stuck it out...most jv seasons are 5 meets or less.

You will quit track too.

I quit so I didn't have to go to practice, do a retarded workout, then go home and do some more to get enough training in. I'm not a quitter, I'm dedicated to improvement. What were your freshman year PRs tough guy?

Agree wrote:

CorrectAnswer wrote:

Start wearing Trump shirts and hats to practice and meets. That democrat coach will be irate.

Agree! Too many democrat pieces of trash in education and coaching.

Start chanting “lock her up” when you are around that democrat coach.

You're clearly not a guy that will distinguish himself as an individual runner, why not be a team guy?

Sit down bud. I get your predicament, but you are a freshman. nobody gives a d amn about your freshman times. It would be different if u were an upperclassman.

A lot of this is just me talking sh8t about my coach in frustration. I get you have to be tough and run in bad conditions, yadda yadda yadda. I just want one solid open race where the team stuff doesn't matter. I've run some fast 4x8 splits. I want an official result.