2018 Commonwealth Games Discussion Thread.

El Keniano wrote:

This kid is a Maasai warrior from Kilgoris, David Rudisha's home village, and the King ? approves:

https://twitter.com/rudishadavid/status/984449429758455809

Yet another unheralded young new Kenyan comes out of nowhere to win a global gold medal. Kenya's supply of 800m talent is endless as Kinyamal hasn't exactly been lighting up the local scene. There's more where he came from. And when you realise this wasn't even Kenya's Team - A ... then maybe now you'll believe me when tell you that Bosse would not have it easy in the Kenyan championship.

Lol. Of course this wasnt Kenyas A team. They have no A team!! Since this is a non champs year theyll struggle to win a single DL event

You seem quite young. Theres a reason I suggested you google and find these articles about Semenya. This reeks of "I-Think-I-Am-Very-Smart".

Ask yourself the question, "Why do women compete in a different class than men?"

No game. wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

This kid is a Maasai warrior from Kilgoris, David Rudisha's home village, and the King ? approves:

https://twitter.com/rudishadavid/status/984449429758455809

Yet another unheralded young new Kenyan comes out of nowhere to win a global gold medal. Kenya's supply of 800m talent is endless as Kinyamal hasn't exactly been lighting up the local scene. There's more where he came from. And when you realise this wasn't even Kenya's Team - A ... then maybe now you'll believe me when tell you that Bosse would not have it easy in the Kenyan championship.

Lol. Of course this wasnt Kenyas A team. They have no A team!! Since this is a non champs year theyll struggle to win a single DL event

One has no choice but to be impressed with Kenya's 800m & 1500m men. Kenya has a NEXT MAN UP philosophy in both 800m & 1500m. Kenya, a population of under 50 million keeps producing numerous sub-1:45 800m and sub-3:35 1500m men every year. It seems like every year, Kenya produces at least a 1/2 a dozen 800m &/or 1500m men with previously mentioned times.

ironside wrote:

No game. wrote:

Lol. Of course this wasnt Kenyas A team. They have no A team!! Since this is a non champs year theyll struggle to win a single DL event

One has no choice but to be impressed with Kenya's 800m & 1500m men. Kenya has a NEXT MAN UP philosophy in both 800m & 1500m. Kenya, a population of under 50 million keeps producing numerous sub-1:45 800m and sub-3:35 1500m men every year. It seems like every year, Kenya produces at least a 1/2 a dozen 800m &/or 1500m men with previously mentioned times.

Well color me unimpressed. Its a population of 50 million all dedicated to running. The US probably has 5 thousand dedicated to running. Yet they still end up 3rd or 4th in the worlds top 800 times even in recent years

Two loser debate tactics:

1) You made an ageist attack.

2) You keep telling me to google previous research.

Again, if it were as simple as googling research, Semenya would have been either banned or forced to take meds to lower Semenya's T-level years ago. The reason why T-level alone hasn't got Semenya banned is because men have various T-levels and a range of performances athletically. The fastest male 800m runner is not necessarily the male with the highest T-level. The only thing you stated new in this post is an ageist attack on me. Respond with facts or an articulate opinion please. Responding by cutting me down for my age doesn't impress anyone but yourself.

Can you not grasp that Semenya, Wambui, Niyonsaba etc have a massive advantage over the other women? No none runners sitting at home that I know believe they are women. Most women think it is utterly disgusting, a scam.

Amos pulled his calf in the first round.

1500m heats had Cheruiyot and Manangoi

Wtf, India just ran 3:04.05 in the 4x400. When did India get fast in a track event?

That was amazing...did you see the Indian guy run so well in the 1500 meter heats as well? I was cheering so hard for him by the end! Between them and the Welsh woman in the 1500, I've found some new random favorite runners.

No game. wrote:

ironside wrote:

One has no choice but to be impressed with Kenya's 800m & 1500m men. Kenya has a NEXT MAN UP philosophy in both 800m & 1500m. Kenya, a population of under 50 million keeps producing numerous sub-1:45 800m and sub-3:35 1500m men every year. It seems like every year, Kenya produces at least a 1/2 a dozen 800m &/or 1500m men with previously mentioned times.

Well color me unimpressed. Its a population of 50 million all dedicated to running. The US probably has 5 thousand dedicated to running. Yet they still end up 3rd or 4th in the worlds top 800 times even in recent years

Here's the thing you lot don't understand and maybe would if you picked Mombasa over Ibiza and Benidorm for you next beach holiday. The population dedicated to running in Kenya is minuscule. Actually smaller than runners in the U.S. Most Kenyans are obsessed with football ⚽️ and know next to nothing about track and field athletics.

El Keniano wrote:

I suppose we'll need a place for live discussions? All sports before the running starts. 71 countries represented at the games on the Gold Coast in Queensland, Australia.

Opening ceremony underway and the weather isn't cooperating. The skies have opened and the ? ☔️ is coming down hard. Ceremony looks fine, though. They definitely got more cash than Glasgow.

Isn't it strange how this thread has been decently active the past few days yet hasn't been placed in the "On The Boards" section? Instead there was a link to Jamin's clubbing experience, to a thread that had been deleted two days earlier!

Lame, Brojos, lame.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Can you not grasp that Semenya, Wambui, Niyonsaba etc have a massive advantage over the other women? No none runners sitting at home that I know believe they are women. Most women think it is utterly disgusting, a scam.

If I were to use emotion, I see your emotion. High T-level is more than a rumor with Semenya. Not a fact with Wambui nor with Niyonsaba. Do understand the counter argument? Is the man with highest T-level in your county or town also the fastest 800m runner in your county or town? If not, there are other factors beside T-level for 800m athletes. Deciding that a forced depressant or mandatory lowering of Semenya's natural T-level is what is required is troubling. Even if Semenya's T-level is reduced, Semenya has muscle memory for elite 800m performances.

vivalarepublica wrote:

Wtf, India just ran 3:04.05 in the 4x400. When did India get fast in a track event?

You know they won the 4x4 when they hosted in 2010.

I can't fathom how a distance runner in India trains between the heat, humidity, smog, traffic (foot and car), and condition of the sidewalks. There are recreational runners in India, but they wake up to go to the park at 6 am before it's too crowded and do 1 km loops.

Wrong!!! wrote:

If I were to use emotion, I see your emotion. High T-level is more than a rumor with Semenya. Not a fact with Wambui nor with Niyonsaba. Do understand the counter argument? Is the man with highest T-level in your county or town also the fastest 800m runner in your county or town? If not, there are other factors beside T-level for 800m athletes. Deciding that a forced depressant or mandatory lowering of Semenya's natural T-level is what is required is troubling. Even if Semenya's T-level is reduced, Semenya has muscle memory for elite 800m performances.

Look you make some fair and interesting arguments from a theoretical perspective. The idea that Semenya & Co have had years of extra testosterone gives them an advantage, as well as a masculine bone structure. Niyonsaba might not be intersex but we'll see, might be doping.

From what I gather Wambui was on ADT

PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE

2018 1:59.54 Nairobi (KEN) 17 FEB 2018

2017 1:56.87 Zürich (SUI) 24 AUG 2017

2016 1:56.89 Rio de Janeiro (BRA) 20 AUG 2016

2015 2:01.32 Eugene (USA) 29 MAY 2015

2014 2:00.49 Eugene (USA) 24 JUL 2014

After Dutee Chand won her (or his) 2015 CAS case Wambui no longer had to keep levels down, see the jump in performance. The same with Caster

PERFORMANCE PLACE DATE

2018 1:57.80 Pretoria (RSA) 17 MAR 2018

2017 1:55.16 London (GBR) 13 AUG 2017

2016 1:55.28 Rio de Janeiro (BRA) 20 AUG 2016

2015 1:59.59 Beijing (CHN) 26 AUG 2015

2014 2:02.66 Roma (ITA) 05 JUN 2014

2013 1:58.92 Rieti (ITA) 08 SEP 2013

Or

2018 51.84 Pretoria (RSA) 10 FEB 2018

2017 51.53 Rabat (MAR) 16 JUL 2017

2016 50.40 Bruxelles (BEL) 09 SEP 2016

2015 53.12 Nové Město nad Metují (CZE) 25 JUL 2015

2014 55.33 Pretoria (RSA) 14 MAR 2014

2012 53.62 Bellville (RSA) 03 MAR 2012

2011 52.54 Germiston (RSA) 26 MAR 2011

Or

2018 4:00.71 Gold Coast (AUS) 10 APR 2018

2017 4:02.84 London (GBR) 04 AUG 2017

2016 4:01.99 Durban (RSA) 24 JUN 2016

2015 4:21.63 Stellenbosch (RSA) 24 APR 2015

2011 4:12.93 Durban (RSA) 10 APR 2011

2009 4:08.01 Bambous (MRI) 02 AUG 2009

2008 4:33.25 Rustenburg (RSA) 29 MAR 2008

This even more startling, it is all about testosterone, I have seen alot of prostate cancer patients up close and ADT weakens them.

Subway postin' the REAL

Not going to be awake during the steeplechase... but from the start list, it looks like that's one event Kenya didn't want to concede any medals

El Keniano wrote:

No game. wrote:

Well color me unimpressed. Its a population of 50 million all dedicated to running. The US probably has 5 thousand dedicated to running. Yet they still end up 3rd or 4th in the worlds top 800 times even in recent years

Here's the thing you lot don't understand and maybe would if you picked Mombasa over Ibiza and Benidorm for you next beach holiday. The population dedicated to running in Kenya is minuscule. Actually smaller than runners in the U.S. Most Kenyans are obsessed with football ⚽️ and know next to nothing about track and field athletics.

You're lying. And on top of that, you don't have a clue. I doubt very much the the population dedicated to running in Kenya is miniscule, but even if it was, it doesn't alter the fact that every high school teacher and physical education guy is looking at every young Kenyan with any sporting ability as potentially the next Rudisha, Kiprop, etc. So even if only 0.1% of the young male population of Kenya was 'dedicated to running', that 0.1% represents the cream of Kenyan sporting talent. The 0.0001% of Americans/Europeans dedicated to running these days represents the sporting talent that showed no aptitude or interest for football, soccer, swimming, cycling, baseball, mma, tennis, basketball, mmma, boxing, and the 100 other sports Westerners participate in, many or most offering a career for the best much more lucrative and glamorous than running.

If Kenyans are obsessed with football, why do the attendances at the big matches attract such pitiful crowds? And so what anyway. Every young Kenyan knows that his only chance at sporting success is to be a fast distance runner (with a little help from the local pharmacist and writing your own birth certificate).

Hardloper wrote:

Not going to be awake during the steeplechase... but from the start list, it looks like that's one event Kenya didn't want to concede any medals

That's because Cyprus is ahead of them on the medal table