Is everyone prepared for Rupp to win Boston?

What the hell is going on wrote:

Meb is nothing. A Rupp victory would be tremendous! Truly start cementing him as one of the marathon greats...and as an American!!

As far as clean. If you have more suspicion about Rupp than about every single E. African than you gotta be a clown. If Rupps victory is hollow to you than a Kipchoge victory must be almost invisible?

Meb is nothing? Bahahahahaha. Sure buddy.

What the hell is going on wrote:

Meb is nothing. A Rupp victory would be tremendous! Truly start cementing him as one of the marathon greats...and as an American!!

As far as clean. If you have more suspicion about Rupp than about every single E. African than you gotta be a clown. If Rupps victory is hollow to you than a Kipchoge victory must be almost invisible?

And the dumbest comment goes too...

Sad but true wrote:

less than average wrote:

Your neighbour doesn’t think there are blank people from America?

He's not wrong, Meb is from Eritrea and used to wear their flag pin on his uniform.

He can be both American and from Eritrea you know.

Stopcecil! wrote:

What the hell is going on wrote:

Meb is nothing. A Rupp victory would be tremendous! Truly start cementing him as one of the marathon greats...and as an American!!

As far as clean. If you have more suspicion about Rupp than about every single E. African than you gotta be a clown. If Rupps victory is hollow to you than a Kipchoge victory must be almost invisible?

And the dumbest comment goes too...

How is his comment dumb? For the record I believe Kipchoge to be clean, but I fail to see how everyone automatically gives him a pass? Meanwhile Rupp was the most tested distance runner on the planet last year and everyone tries to throw shade? To be honest it wreaks of jealousy.....

epicTCK wrote:

joho wrote:

Meb winning Boston was American enough for me. Rupp winning will only be a small footnote in running history.

yeah freaking hate all these people who are like "AMERICAN WINNING BOSTON!!!" and its like bruh meb just did that a handful of years ago

The cowardly virtue signaling of brainwashed sjw types demonstrates the pervasiveness of the brainwashing and the inability of these dupes to engage in any kind of introspection. They'll fall all over each other to defend anyone who isn't white. Period. Yet they don't ask themselves why they automatically engage in this behavior, and why they'll fall over each other to attack anyone who is white. Disgusting. Btw, anyone ever wonder why the immigration floodgates were kicked open, who was behind it and why?

No one is denigrating Meb's win, but the sjw cowards are the same jealous little turds who try to belittle anything Rupp has done. The fact that Rupp has two Olympic medals drives them into a frothing rage. lol

HahaRiiiiiiight wrote:

Stopcecil! wrote:

And the dumbest comment goes too...

How is his comment dumb? For the record I believe Kipchoge to be clean, but I fail to see how everyone automatically gives him a pass? Meanwhile Rupp was the most tested distance runner on the planet last year and everyone tries to throw shade? To be honest it wreaks of jealousy.....

You are so right. The E. Africans for the most part avoid all out of season and out of competition testing and the Rupp haters know it. Rupp and Centro went through periods wherein they were literally tested every other week while their "natural" competition went through zero out of season tests and very little in season testing. Why is there such a double-standard? A double-standard mind you that has existed since the late 80s and became readily apparent by the early 90s? The naive would rather listen to liars like Rat Canova.

Sad but true wrote:

less than average wrote:

Your neighbour doesn’t think there are blank people from America?

He's not wrong, Meb is from Eritrea and used to wear their flag pin on his uniform.

Eritrea has always claimed Meb as their own. When he won silver at the Olympics, he was just as celebrated as Zersenay in Asmara- huge posters of him- everything.

Why are so many people fooled by Ryan Hall? Don’t people realise that he was doing PEDs when he set his ARs in the 1/2 and in the full? He grew a conscience (I’m guessing because he saw what happened to Lance) and decided to try to compete clean for a while, until he realised he couldn’t compete at the same level. Talking about his low T was basically an admission of guilt IMO. I guess he feels god will forgive him. But I’d love to seem him take the high-road and be one of the first high profile atheletes to come clean without being cornered into it. I’m not expecting that to happen, but it would be great if it did.

HahaRiiiiiiight wrote:

Stopcecil! wrote:

And the dumbest comment goes too...

How is his comment dumb? For the record I believe Kipchoge to be clean, but I fail to see how everyone automatically gives him a pass? Meanwhile Rupp was the most tested distance runner on the planet last year and everyone tries to throw shade? To be honest it wreaks of jealousy.....

The first sentence is why it is dumb.

You feel good getting that off your chest? I absolutely am a bigger fan of Meb than I am Rupp. I'm also a bigger fan of Simpson than I am Moser. Not all fandom is driven by race.

Rupp winning (and I think he has a good shot) will mean something different than Meb winning, but I won't be as excited about it.

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

Oh, please wrote:

Really? I can imagine many far more exciting things. I think you seriously lack imagination.

Also, quit being such a drama queen. To read your post, you’d think Rupp winning a B-level marathon is a Shakespearean tragedy.

I’m concerned that we won’t have any A-level marathons left by 2020, every race Rupp enters will be “B-level” to y’all

That's how it works on letsrun. Unless the field features bekele, kipchoge, or kipsang, it cannot possibly be A level

I'll feel like the OP if Rupp wins.

The only reason I traditionally care about American nationality is because we have the altitude disadvantage compared to many Africans. It's harder for the average American runner to compete with the average Kenyan/Ethiopian runner. It's a real underdog and dream story to see a sea-level born American beat the altitude born Africans through what we would chalk up to training and the American spirit.

Meb, as an implant, was I believe born in altitude. He's a fantastic story, but had the one advantage I'm concerned about.

This is where Ryan Hall is an interesting story. He actually grew up in altitude in one of the few areas of the U.S. with altitude. So while he might encapsulate the American spirit I can't really call him an underdog story. He competed at the equal level he should have with a similar childhood.

So now it's all murky and I just want to cheer for anyone who is clean. I'll always have a soft spot for somebody born at sea level or with some disadvantage who tries to do well at the marathon.

Hard to cheer for Rupp. And I, like you, think it's clear that their NOP program was dirty. I was okay with it when I thought Salazar was doing everything within the rules, but it became clear that he researched everything well enough to the point where he learned how to do the wrong things and still make it appear he was doing things within the rules.

What? No love for Bill Rodgers?

Funny now that this is mentioned but I would feel more patriotic about Meb winning for some reason than Rupp. I can't put into words why, though.

I would love this to turn into a challenging, fast-from-the-start type of race, because we haven't seen Rupp in one of those yet. It's been proven in the past that as long as it's not too hot and the wind isn't in their face the entire time Boston can be a fast (even very fast) course.

My hope is this doesn't turn into another jog-and-wait-until-the-last-10K type race. The slower, tactical style marathons are all Rupp has experience with so far, so you'd think it would be in the rest of field's interest to make the pace honest from early on ... but I though surely someone would do the same in Chicago and there they ended up running like 2:12 pace for the first 20.

Whoever wins I'm just ready to see a fast(er) time in Boston again. Since Mutai's ridiculous 2:03, the winning time has been 2:12, 2:10, 2:08, 2:09, 2:12, and 2:09. Given that there are so many 2:05-2:06 guys nowadays, it seems like even the times in unpaced races on (potentially) harder course should be getting faster too.

Between 1979 and 2002, the winning time in Boston was 2:09 or faster 18 times (out of 24 years) and the WR was 2:08:33 ('69) down to 2:05:38 ('02), so they were usually within 3 minutes (or closer) of the WR.

The biggest (and dumbest) sin of letsrun users it seems is thinking that anyone that wins or runs fast, is a doper. It's just speculative b.s.

Stopcecil! wrote:

The biggest (and dumbest) sin of letsrun users it seems is thinking that anyone that wins or runs fast, is a doper. It's just speculative b.s.

Agreed, that is dumb.

That does not apply to Rupp though as there is plenty of reasons besides his times to suspect PED use.

FrenchDawg wrote:

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

I’m concerned that we won’t have any A-level marathons left by 2020, every race Rupp enters will be “B-level” to y’all

That's how it works on letsrun. Unless the field features bekele, kipchoge, or kipsang, it cannot possibly be A level

not even true haha, they discredit both his Olympic medals which featured two of those guys

You're scared. You are fearful that someone that you believe in your mind is cheating will win. Or angry. You feel slighted that the world isn't fair. So you downplay his victory before the race so that if he does win and pull off an amazing feat for american distance running, you will have already laid the groundwork to minimize his performance.

Nice try.

You see, there is this thing called reality. Theres also this thing called cognitive dissonance. Your mind hits the panic button when presented with EVIDENCE that challenges your worldview. It is simple: if Rupp were cheating, he wouldnt be allowed to compete. But he is allowed to compete because the authorities have deemed that he is clean. They are not stupid. If they had a reason to ban or suspend him, trust me, they would.

I am rooting for Rupp. I bet he will win. It will show that we can compete with world class international athletes.