Power 5 teams will have 10 guys going to nationals. There goes at least 5 scholarships but more like 7-8 which leaves about 5 for the other 40 guys. Another 10 guys are scoring a point or 2 at conference so they are gettin 1/4. That leaves only 2.5 scholarships for the remaining 30 guys. Coaches done have scholarships nor roster spots to use on nonscoring males. Title IX implementation usually limits men’s track rosters.
Bozo the clown wrote:
Power 5 teams will have 10 guys going to nationals. There goes at least 5 scholarships but more like 7-8 which leaves about 5 for the other 40 guys. Another 10 guys are scoring a point or 2 at conference so they are gettin 1/4. That leaves only 2.5 scholarships for the remaining 30 guys. Coaches done have scholarships nor roster spots to use on nonscoring males. Title IX implementation usually limits men’s track rosters.
Keep your clown nose because you're going to need it for work.
Yes, you're a bozo wrote:
Bozo the clown wrote:
Power 5 teams will have 10 guys going to nationals. There goes at least 5 scholarships but more like 7-8 which leaves about 5 for the other 40 guys. Another 10 guys are scoring a point or 2 at conference so they are gettin 1/4. That leaves only 2.5 scholarships for the remaining 30 guys. Coaches done have scholarships nor roster spots to use on nonscoring males. Title IX implementation usually limits men’s track rosters.
Keep your clown nose because you're going to need it for work.
He is not wrong, even for a mid major--a lot of teams give 75% of their awards (9ish scholarships) to 11-14 male athletes on substantial aid who score around 90% of the points at the conference level. Most mid majors are awarding scholarships based on conference performance (although at the mid-major level, national level athletes are usually 10+ point athletes at conference). The 3+ remaining scholarships are small and split between a lot of athletes on books to a few thousand.
Because women get 18 scholarships you take more chances in recruiting (you have to). Logic also dictates that for most teams, because there are just as many scoring positions (for potentially even more athletes/women's teams) and more scholarship dollars there are far more women on scholarship who are not able to score points.
Break 430 or 930 and you will get offers. Not to p5 but you'll be wooed and offered. It's nice to get that once in your life so enjoy it.
To the OP... there is some good information here from actual coaches... including sub 14... and a few others...
Be aware however that not all schools hand partials or fulls out the same way... depends on focus of HC, conference affiliation, directive from the AD, etc... additionally some private schools have better access to help on the financial aid end of things and often athletes will say they are on a full, which is true from a $$ stand point, but they are not actually getting a full athletic scholarship.
Many P5 schools, due to their lofty reputations, don't have to offer anything to get very good distance walk-ons so they can use their limited number of available scholarships elsewhere.
It is a bit more complicated than one might imagine.
No. I have 2 sons who ran 4:12-9:12 and heard nothing from any coaches so they completed a bunch of recruiting questionnaires. They received only about a 10% response rate and ended up accepting large academic scholarships at P5 schools but no athletic scholarship.
fwiw here's my experience wrote:
My experience:
I run at a mid-major school, ran times of 1:54, 2:31, and 4:21 on the track as well as 8th at states and 22nd at regionals in cross. I was offered close to a full ride at an equally good (team-wise) private school, chose to attend a public school because the academics were better. I was also contacted by a power 5 coach after cross country, but I was not interested so we never got to talking about scholarships.
My friend runs at a high-major school, he ran times of 1:58, 4:18, and 9:10 and was 3rd at states, 5th at regionals in cross. I know he doesn't have a full ride, but his scholarship was significant (close to 1/2 maybe?).
Another friend runs at a power 5 school, I'm not going to put her times here because they were so fast some people on here might know her just from them. The basic gist would be multiple-time All American in cross and national champion on the track. She had coaches coming for home visits and many offers of full rides.
It depends as much on what recruits the team has already and how much money they have left. Finding a school without any big name recruits is a sure way to get some money, making the team however is not going to be terribly hard at most schools. I would put the guidelines as something like this (these are very rough guidelines though, different schools may have wildly different standards):
Mid-major:
Walk-on 1/4 1/2 Full
800m 2:00 1:58 1:56 1:54
1600m 4:30 4:26 4:22 4:18
3200m 9:45 9:38 9:29 9:20
Power 5:
Walk-on 1/4 1/2 Full
800m 1:57 1:55 1:53 1:51
1600m 4:22 4:17 4:12 4:07
3200m 9:28 9:16 9:04 8:52
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing