Mo Farah sues Ben Bloom

stoptheracism wrote:

I don't like Mo Farah but you're just a racist jerk tbh.

What in the wide world of sports are you talking about?!?! In what post has anyone referred to his skin colour, race, or religious preference? Are you insane??? This has NOTHING to do with any of that. NOTHING.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Mo better not get caught like Lance did because this could boomerang back and put Mo in jail.

For what exactly? Doping isn't a crime.

Feltham wrote:The 'media' Mo is very different to real life.

The 'media Mo' is the reason he's never testing positive.

I'm anxiously awaiting Coe to bless Mo, just like he did with Radcliffe.

How much will he get off suing letsrun.com?

Suing LRC for what?

larkimm wrote:

The IAAF flagged his data as "likely doping" and there's a world of difference between having one result flagged as such and the IAAF actually calling you a likely doper.

What's the yuuge difference between being "likely doping" and being "a likely doper"?

Or do you see the yuuge difference between being flagged as "likely doping" and being called a "likely doper"?

Yes, I do in terms of reputation.

Let's assume the "man on the clapham omnibus" doesn't know loads of back story about doping, Farah, IAAF etc.

He reads something which eeffectively says "Mo Farah's governing body has labelled him as a likely doper" that's very different from a report which says "One of Mo Farah's blood samples was flagged as "likely doping" which resulted in further analysis that cleared him" or even "One of Mo Farah's blooed samples was flagged as "likely doping" without the additional clarification.

But it doesn't matter what I think on this, I think its not unreasonable to assume that that's what Farah's lawyers threw at Bloom's lawyers, and that resulted in the settlement and the twitter statement from Bloom.

larkimm wrote:

He reads something which eeffectively says "Mo Farah's governing body has labelled him as a likely doper" that's very different from a report which says ...

"One of Mo Farah's blooed samples was flagged as "likely doping" without the additional clarification.

I don't see that, sorry.

If you have a positive test, you are flagged as "doping", and called a "doper", no matter whether another, independent test three weeks later "clears" you. If you have a suspicious test, you are flagged as "likely doping", but cannot be called a "likely doper"?

I do agree that the whole gist of that article is extremely negative though.

Actually, a negative test after a positive test is not really clearing you, is it? Likewise, a negative test after a suspicious test is not really clearing you either.

It is also worth remembering that the "likely doping" list is a lot shorter than the list of actual dopers (roughly half of the championship athletes), and that a couple of later convicted hard core EPO drug cheats were never found to be "likely doping" - see the parallel Farah thread in which you are also writing.

"likely doping" is an objective threshold determination, where values are plugged into software, and several algorithms test the values for categorization into suspect or non-suspect categories.

Such a determination is often subjectively overridden by anti-doping experts in later phases, manually interpreting the results, and factoring in other external information or potential confounding factors. Or the result is ambiguous and non-conclusive, forcing the experts to recommend another test to corroborate or add more data.

Suggesting "the IAAF called Farah is a likely doper" implies that the IAAF actively reached a subjective conclusion about the athlete, rather than showing that the "likely doping" status of a sample was a preliminary intermediate state that did not lead to an ADRV conclusion. Such an clarification is not necessary in private files shared between experts, who would understand this with proper perspective, and not with the public.

It is also worth remembering that the list of actual dopers on a "likely doping" list will be less than the names on the list, as plausible non-doping explanations eliminate the false-positives. To make up the gap to "nearly half", you need to look outside of blood results.

stoptheracism wrote:

I don't like Mo Farah but you're just a racist jerk tbh.

Breaking: islam isn't a race, but a fascist ideology disguised as religion.

stoptheracism wrote:

I don't like Mo Farah but you're just a racist jerk tbh.

Agreed. Poster has been banned and deleted.

Blown away wrote:

stoptheracism wrote:

I don't like Mo Farah but you're just a racist jerk tbh.

What in the wide world of sports are you talking about?!?! In what post has anyone referred to his skin colour, race, or religious preference? Are you insane??? This has NOTHING to do with any of that. NOTHING.

There was one poster who made a reference to Mo's name and it was racist or at least xenophobic. Post has been removed and person banned.

nnnn wrote:

stoptheracism wrote:

I don't like Mo Farah but you're just a racist jerk tbh.

Breaking: islam isn't a race, but a fascist ideology disguised as religion.

Please don't feed the trolls. Just know that "racism" is the default answer for everything, especially when liberals have run out of bullets and talking points. Speaking as a "man of color" (I despise that term), if I do something wrong or don't follow the rules, then the consequences still apply. That's only appropriate and proper. Whether or not I am born in South Korea has no bearing on the fact if I have wronged another or committed a crime.

rekrunner wrote:

It is also worth remembering that the list of actual dopers on a "likely doping" list will be less than the names on the list, as plausible non-doping explanations eliminate the false-positives. To make up the gap to "nearly half", you need to look outside of blood results.

Well, where do you want to look if not into the blood results? The blood results include Hct boosting via EPO and blood transfusions, as well as a steroid module. Recall that the thresholds were originally so generously chosen to avoid false positives.

If the software then still flags way too few people compared to the 50% of self-admitted dopers by a factor of 20 - 30 (!), then one really should consider using tougher thresholds. Again, see e.g. Poistogova and Savinova etc. who got away with all their EPO doping - without ever getting flagged.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Mo better not get caught like Lance did because this could boomerang back and put Mo in jail.

In jail? For what?

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Mo better not get caught like Lance did because this could boomerang back and put Mo in jail.

For what exactly? Doping isn't a crime.

In some countries it is; not sure what GB's laws are on it.

Ghosted wrote:

Ghost1 wrote:

Farah is of Somalian origin, not Eritrean.

Farah is not the only athlete to progress in late twenties, early thirties, look at Radcliffe, for example. Fatah, became a lot stronger, under Salazar, with tons of weight lifting and cross training, which he had not done with Alan Storey.

Farah is usually chill and low key, but it was uncharacteristic of him to go nuts in the German airport. I think he perceived the officials were targetting him on racial grounds, when in fact those officials were just doing their jobs.

It is unfortunate that this isolated incident was made public, because anyone who has met Farah knows that incident was out of character. Very unfortunate.

Uh-huh. Apparently he just lets his wife typically do it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/1759089/mo-farahs-wifes-furious-f-word-tirade-at-airline-worker-over-delay-boarding-rio-flight/amp/

Mo is usually very calm and placid, never causes a scene.

Luv2Run wrote:

In some countries it is; not sure what GB's laws are on it.

Nothing yet, but people are working on it. However, Coe continues his fight against tougher laws.

"writes that he was hill training in the park four years ago when a couple with a pushchair blocked the path and refused to budge."

Wow he attacked a couple with a young child in a pushchair in a public park? He sounds completely beserk like some someone who overdosed on anabolic steroids. I thought he started doping around 2010 but maybe he was already doing steroids in 2009.