Molly Huddle just destroyed Jordan Hasay at 2018 US 15k champs (40th Gate River Run). Leonard Korir beats Chelanga and Hehir

Molly.Huddle.does.Yoga wrote:

I heard at this forum from some "LRC experts" who said that doing yoga will destroy your running economy/efficiency.

It turns out that Ms. Molly Huddle has been doing...more Yoga.

"My running resolution: Work more on mobility drills and YOGA when I can, to help combat years of mileage-induced stiffness."

https://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/more-sleep-less-beer-9-elite-runners-make-new-years-resolutions/sli

Another "LRC expert" theory is... turned to dust.

ha ha ha

We, are all, indeed, the experiment of one. Ergo, all advice is irrelevant.

Ivy Spelling Boy wrote:

Correct. wrote:

Jordan ran great, for Jordan. But did anyone expect her to beat Molly over 15k? The shorter the race the more the smart money is on Molly to win. Even a half marathon I think you can give an edge to Molly.

If your theory is correct, then why does Jordan PTG Hasay have a faster 1500m PR (4:07.70) than Molly Huddle (4:08.09)?????

That is a problem with your theory.

Oh well.

That’s what you came up with huh? So you think Jordon should have easily beat Molly but had a really crappy run instead? Ok, idiot.

Can't we all just be friends?

TrackCoach wrote:

In Jordan's defense, she ran almost a minute faster than she did last year. Molly's 47:50 would have smoked just about anyone, it's got to be close to the American record. I don't think anyone in the world broke 48 last year. I hate how this post assume's Jordan ran poorly rather than the fact that Molly ran great.

Good point Coach, Jordan is on track to run a good marathon, she ran extremely well.

This distance 15k is almost perfect for Molly's strength and speed. Better than the marathon distance which now appears to fit Jordans strength.

Both athletes are on track to run good marathons.

No, her outside article says she eats 5,000 calories a day.

Must need all those calories to tan as must as she does. Every time I watch her interviews I can’t get past the charred skin. May talk like a 25 yo but her skin is 65 yo.

Regardless she ran fast!

Interesting to watch Hasay and Huddle cool down yesterday. First of all, they cooled down forever. I did two miles - Hasay must've done four. More interesting was that each cooled down totally alone. Most every other elite was cooling down with someone, but they were noticeably solo.

That's the real story here. Was it the 4%?

Smoove wrote:

Interesting to watch Hasay and Huddle cool down yesterday. First of all, they cooled down forever. I did two miles - Hasay must've done four. More interesting was that each cooled down totally alone. Most every other elite was cooling down with someone, but they were noticeably solo.

Wow.

That is really interesting.

Please give us more details on their cool-down run.

This is the most exciting topic that I have ever found at the Let us run forum.

actually, it does give a little insight. Hasay is pretty personable but often shunned by other elites because of AlSal, rightly or (imo) wrongly. Huddle can be a bit cliquey, so perhaps that explains her solo cooldown. Perhaps it was only tabloid info but still interesting.

Wait a minute.

The progression of Mr. Weldo Johnson (=wejo) from a 10K PR of 30:13 to a 10K PR of 28:06 under Math Whiz Coach Kellogg Corn Flakes...looks...VERY SUSPICIOUS!!!

It is obvious that wejo is a doper.

You are exactly correct.

Mr. Weldon Johnson made a visit to Dr. Anthony Galea.

It was just to help heal his "injuries" ...with GROWTH FACTORS FROM BLOOD.

That is the exact same excuse that the DOPING baseball players used.

What a joke.

A Canadian doctor who has treated many N.F.L. players as well as Olympic medalists like Donovan Bailey and the world’s top golfer, Tiger Woods, is under criminal investigation in the United States. He is suspected of providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs, according to several people who have been briefed on the investigation.

The F.B.I. investigation of Dr. Anthony Galea, a sports medicine specialist who has treated hundreds of professional athletes across many sports, follows his arrest on Oct. 15 in Toronto by the Canadian police. Human growth hormone and Actovegin, a drug extracted from calf’s blood, were found in his medical bag at the United States-Canada border in late September. Using, selling or importing ACTOVEGIN (which is the same drug Ms. Paula Pantani Radcliffe used. It is just a coincidence.

ACTOVEGIN is illegal in the United States.

Dr. Galea is also being investigated by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police for smuggling, advertising and selling unapproved drugs as well as criminal conspiracy. He is tentatively scheduled to appear in a Canadian courtroom on Friday.

Dr. Galea and his lawyer say his innovative treatments do not break any laws or violate antidoping rules in sport. “We’re confident that an investigation of Dr. Galea will lead to his total vindication,” said Brian H. Greenspan, Dr. Galea’s criminal-defense lawyer. “Dr. Galea was never engaged in any wrongdoing or any impropriety. Not only does he have a reputation that is impeccable, he is a person at the very top of his profession.”

Dr. Galea has developed a reputation among elite athletes for accelerating RECOVERY after surgery or for helping them avoid surgery altogether by using a BLOOD-spinning technique known as platelet-rich plasma (PRP) therapy (WHICH CONTAINS GROWTH FACTORS FROM BLOOD.), as well as other pioneering procedures, on knees, elbows and Achilles’ tendons.

Although he said he prescribed human growth hormone (HGH) to some patients in his general practice and had used it himself for 10 years, Dr. Galea, 50, said in an interview that he had never treated professional athletes with H.G.H.

Dr. Galea’s legal problems began in late September when his assistant was stopped entering the United States from Canada. Her car was searched by border-crossing guards and authorities found Dr. Galea’s medical bag, which contained four drugs, including human growth hormone, Dr. Galea said. “It was for my own use,” he said.

As part of his practice, Dr. Galea said he prescribed human growth hormone to patients 40 and over to improve their stamina when working out and to combat fatigue, among other health benefits.

Prescribing human growth hormone is legal in Canada but approved in the United States only for a few specific uses that do not include hastening recovery from surgery or injury. In the world of sports, under World Anti-Doping Association guidelines, H.G.H. is banned though not widely tested for because it requires a blood test. The N.F.L., the N.H.L., the N.B.A. and Major League Baseball do not test for H.G.H.

Actovegin is a controversial drug that is not approved for sale in Canada and is being closely monitored, though not banned, by the World Anti-Doping Agency. It is essentially strained and purified calf’s blood, and is produced in Austria by Nycomed, a Swiss-based company. Actovegin first came to the attention of antidoping authorities in the late 1990s when elite cyclists were found to be using it. Actovegin “was tested by antidoping laboratories and no growth hormone or prohibited hormones were found,” said Frédéric Donzé, a spokesman for the World Anti-Doping Agency, which is based in Montreal. “WADA, however, closely monitors Actovegin since we are aware of its use in some sports, possibly in conjunction with other substances that may be prohibited.”

In cycling, for example. some athletes apparently believe that it can accelerate the healing of injuries, especially tendon and muscle tears. Many leading antidoping experts, however, believe there is no benefit and all the athletes get is a placebo effect.

The United States Anti-Doping Agency has developed “intelligence” that athletes are using Actovegin to attempt to improve performance, according to a person with knowledge of the matter. Usada asked WADA to ban Actovegin but it refused.

News of his arrest shocked many in the sports world (e.g. Mr. Weldon Johnson), especially those who refer to him as “Miracle Man.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/sports/15doctor.html

ha ha ha

I watched Huddle cool down at least 2 miles with Sarah True. Then was with Rochelle Kanuho and Chelsea Blaase for another 10-15 minutes. Yes Hasay was alone with 2 adults waiting at the end of the road that was probably her Dad and some woman.

Could be that Huddle was doing a longer cool down routine and I saw her adding on after others were done. Huddle was solo the two times I saw her - when I left for and came in from my cool down.

Not saying that they are shunned or anything else - it could be that they are just competitive people who don't want to get too personal with their competition. Either way, a little insight into the different world of elite athletes was interesting to me.

Smoove wrote:

Could be that Huddle was doing a longer cool down routine and I saw her adding on after others were done. Huddle was solo the two times I saw her - when I left for and came in from my cool down.

Not saying that they are shunned or anything else - it could be that they are just competitive people who don't want to get too personal with their competition. Either way, a little insight into the different world of elite athletes was interesting to me.

I observed something similar at Gate last year. Most of the women cooled down in various friendly-seeming groups. However, Hasay cooled down only with former teammate Luke Puskedra. I didn't see any of the other women interact with her. Also, she was MIA at all the post-race parties, which many of the elites seemed as least as excited about as the race itself.

Jordan Hasay cooled down with Jared Ward and his brother.

Smoove Move wrote:

That's the real story here. Was it the 4%?

I guess this makes the whole '4% can't be beat' idea comical. When the thread on it appeared I considered commenting on the fact that Hasay loses nearly every race she enters. She may have won some years ago but she wasn't wearing the alleged super shoe at the time. Every race Mary Keitany wins is another example of the shoe not winning. So-called 'cheater shoe' chokes again!

patti wrote:

Boston is going to be great to see.

Molly's time, I'd put her in the 2 24 range, interesting to see what Boston holds.

Jordan s event is the marathon. I am looking forward to seeing her running Boston!

Go Patti, woohoo!

The Outside Magazine article quotes Hasay as eating 5000 calories a day.

How is that possible?

First of all she is small, and her basic metabolism must be no more then 1000 calories.

Considering 100 calories a mile at the most for her frame size, she'd have to be running 30 miles a day to require 3000 more calories.

Perhaps she's not really eating anything close to that total number of calories.

5000 calories ??? wrote:

The Outside Magazine article quotes Hasay as eating 5000 calories a day.

How is that possible?

First of all she is small, and her basic metabolism must be no more then 1000 calories.

Considering 100 calories a mile at the most for her frame size, she'd have to be running 30 miles a day to require 3000 more calories.

Perhaps she's not really eating anything close to that total number of calories.

1000 + 3000 = 4000

1000 + 4000 = 5000

Try again.