You spelled Africaat least three times with a lower case "a." I want a DNA test result. I doubt your blackness.
You spelled Africaat least three times with a lower case "a." I want a DNA test result. I doubt your blackness.
I'm highly sceptical of who and why they get caught. Almost every time someone gets caught it is a dispensable that is not a household name and doesn't damage the sport. Is it a coincidence that none of the top performers with large endorsements and lots of publicity EVER get caught. Those who do, seem to be those without significant legal and financial backing. Coe can sit there and say 'we need these people out of our sport' yet high profile athletes with incredibly dubious connections get away without any negativity. It's a joke, has everyone forgotten about Jama Aden and his many associations! Protection.
rewqt wrote:
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Who is her coach?
You read can?
You read maybe can posts before.
Dopey idiot....
Gee watch out Shakespeare ↖my 3 year niece has crayons that you can borrow.
CDA, still sulking after yesterday?
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8700925&page=12I asked who was coaching her because no sources are definitive, "Joshua Kemei set up Bahrain’s running program in 2012 and is now the Gulf kingdom’s head athletics coach, scouting top talent in Kenyan schools."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-rio-athletics-kenya-bahrain/bahraini-overtures-to-kenya-born-runners-attract-medals-controversy-idUSKCN10S235The only really big names to go down were Marion Jones and Justin Gatlin.
Jones was exposed by the BALCO investigation not by testing.
Gatlin was nailed by USADA at time when Jamaica effectively had no out-of-comp testing at all. WADA and IAAF needed non-American stars who they knew could be protected with certainty, as USADA and the U.S. feds were too aggressive in prosecution (include Lance's ongoing troubles with U.S. feds as a backround element). NOP's problems confirmed this situation.
Russia played the game as a unified protected entity until they got too obvious and cocky.
El G, Bolt, Kelly Holmes, Paula and Mo were made the "untouchable" golden boys and girls. They and their keepers played the game, cash stuffed in envelopes, covert wire transactions, the whole nine yards you can bet your house on it.
She's a poor girl, not very bright, and she probably doesn't even know what her coaches are giving her.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
rewqt wrote:
You read can?
You read maybe can posts before.
Dopey idiot....
Gee watch out Shakespeare ↖my 3 year niece has crayons that you can borrow.
CDA, still sulking after yesterday?
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8700925&page=12I asked who was coaching her because no sources are definitive, "Joshua Kemei set up Bahrain’s running program in 2012 and is now the Gulf kingdom’s head athletics coach, scouting top talent in Kenyan schools."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-rio-athletics-kenya-bahrain/bahraini-overtures-to-kenya-born-runners-attract-medals-controversy-idUSKCN10S235
Idiot, I wrote that way because you asked who her coach is when that has been posted a few times already.
Now stick those crayons where the Sun doesn't shine on you, Shakespeare prick.
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Why would we be surprised that a Bahraini with terrible hurdling technique, and running extremely fast times would be suspicious? Last year she was very fast, running away from people with ease, then turns up at the WCs and is rubbish, then a week later she is invincible again.
Who is her coach?
+1
srgjetyj wrote:
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Gee watch out Shakespeare ↖my 3 year niece has crayons that you can borrow.
CDA, still sulking after yesterday?
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8700925&page=12I asked who was coaching her because no sources are definitive, "Joshua Kemei set up Bahrain’s running program in 2012 and is now the Gulf kingdom’s head athletics coach, scouting top talent in Kenyan schools."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-rio-athletics-kenya-bahrain/bahraini-overtures-to-kenya-born-runners-attract-medals-controversy-idUSKCN10S235Idiot, I wrote that way because you asked who her coach is when that has been posted a few times already.
Now stick those crayons where the Sun doesn't shine on you, Shakespeare prick.
This is all you have to post on a doping discussion? What a total joke and you're posting on a subject that's obviously above your head. You'd be better off sticking with those ridiculous nonsensical "unrelated to running" threads that flood this forum. ?
In 2015 she runs 9:21. Something like 10th at the World Championships. Then the next year she runs 8:52?!?! Gold at the Olympic $$$$ and absolutely crushes the field by 100 meters. Leads almost the entire race? I always figured that was a bit to fishy....
I forgot to mention the 8:52 was a new world record by about 7 seconds! Not one or two seconds but 7
Everyone's looking for an edge wrote:
Left Said Fred wrote:
I believe she's coached by Khalid Boulami.
Well...that just says it all. Moroccan magic at work. ?
Saudia-born Saad Shaddad, a retired five-time Asian 3000m steeplechase champion is the coach hired by Bahrain to run the camps in Kenya, Ethiopia and South Africa where they are shopping for sprinters and field athletes.
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He is assisted by local coaches, including Gregory Kilonzo who is credited with the Riruta Satellite production line that gave Kenya a number of World Youth and World Junior champions.
from
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/sports/article/2001229003/pros-and-cons-of-citizenship-changeconfirmed by Jebet according to spe15.fr
http://spe15.fr/ruth-jebet-championne-olympique-du-steeple-controlee-positive/We saw this a mile away when she smashed the previous record held by a Russian whom everyone suspects was doping. And she smashed it by 6 seconds. And she was still in her teens.
Talk about red flag after red flag after red flag
trollism wrote:
The shock is that she got caught, not that she's doping. Everybody knew that anyway.
Kenya must not be paying their bribes.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
This is huge. However, luckily for Kenya, she is not running for them. So they can shade it, and I am sure they will.
On the olympic front, this is huge, because she is probably the best steeplchaser in the world. If true, she was probably doping out of competition, so her body can perform at a high level during training, and then cycle off before competition to not get detected.
Good call, Columbo.
Pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
trollism wrote:
The shock is that she got caught, not that she's doping. Everybody knew that anyway.
Kenya must not be paying their bribes.
Or, whatever country she competes for.. Clean athletes do not stand a chance.
Hardloper wrote:
Jebet came out of nowhere during an Olympic year and made drastic improvements, simultaneously switching to the Bahraini flag. Yasemin Can, same story, red flags all over the place. FWIW I don't agree with the "Kenyan doping culture" posts at all, I think Celphine Chespol is the real deal and should be the WR holder already.
Chepsol is in the same training group as Jebet....the group that also included Rita Jeptoo
Pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Kenya must not be paying their bribes.
Or, whatever country she competes for.. Clean athletes do not stand a chance.
If the champs are in London perhaps, otherwise your right, not a chance, she could run under 9 mins with ease.
Somebody check the archives but Venti was on here 6 months ago saying she could go 8:45 or quicker.
Buzzy Boy wrote:
I forgot to mention the 8:52 was a new world record by about 7 seconds! Not one or two seconds but 7
Someone said she is not very bright, and I don't know if that is true, but she and her coaches should have figured out that she should have paced it better (it is just 3K) and tried to run an 8:58 WR, then 8:57, then 8:56, etc.
You don't just knock it out of the park the first paced-WR-attempt with good weather you get. Looks too suspicious for one, but the financial element is more important. Now the women's Steeple WR is stuck where all the distance WRs are: anyone who is capable of setting the WRs on a strong doping program is already under so much scrutiny that they won't be able to ever do it.
She could have broken the WR at least 3 times and still ended at 8:52, now she is done and has no chance.
The women's steeple, 1500m, and 10k have all fallen the last few yrs, but look at how long they had been the WR before that?
1500m - 3:52.47 - 3:50.07 -- 35 years
Steeple - 8:58.81 - 8:52.78 -- 8 years
10k - 29:53.80 - 29:17.45 -- 7 years
None of the Men's WRs have been broken in the longest period in modern-era history for every event.
1500m - 20 yrs and only 5 guys under 3:28.00
Mile - 19 yrs and only 3 guys under 3:46
2000m - 19 yrs and only 5 guys under 4:50
3000m - 22 yrs and only 2 guys under 7:25.00 ever.
Steeple - 14 yrs since Shaheen and only 9 sub-8:00s since 2010.
5000m - 14 yrs since Bekele and 20 yrs since Gebr.
10000m - 13 yrs since Bekele and 20 yrs since Gebr.
If I wanted to make a bet, if they keep the testing pressure on, these WRs won't be broken until they are 30 years old. And if we had completely clean athletics, they would not be broken for 80 more years
If Jebet goes down, this definitely means that Coburn has been doping.
I'd be surprised at Jebet, but not Coburn, due to her ties to Jenny Barringer.
bahrein vs kenya wrote:
Saudia-born Saad Shaddad, a retired five-time Asian 3000m steeplechase champion is the coach hired by Bahrain to run the camps in Kenya, Ethiopia and South Africa where they are shopping for sprinters and field athletes.
I can't speak for South Africa, but if he is shopping for sprinters and Field-eventers in Kenya and Ethiopia he is wasting his goddamn time.