Could a 5-foot-4 125-pound professional boxer pretty much beat up any 6-2 200-pound guy who is athletic but has not fighting

I think you guys forget how small 5'4" 125lbs is. That's a tiny person.

It’s clear the people taking the taller and heavier guy in a fight have never been in a real fight before. Usually people break their hands in a fight because they don’t know how to land a punch or even make a proper fist. Blake Griffin punched a 5’6 dude and broke his hand.

Bad example. Couture weighs 230#. In fact most of the examples people are bringing up are of guys that are 170# or more. 125# is smaller than a lot of women. Getting punched by a 125# guy with gloves on would be like getting bitten by a bunch of mosquitos. Annoying, but not threatening to knock a dude out by any means. The big guy lands one decent punch and the little guy gets carried off on a stretcher. There is a reason there are weight classes in boxing (it's so the little guys don't end up dead).

little ones wrote:

I think you guys forget how small 5'4" 125lbs is. That's a tiny person.

You forget how fast a professional boxer can move and hit.

And regarding weight classes...that's so they don't get killed fighting OTHER TRAINED FIGHTERS...

We're talking about untrained guy with little to no fight experience versus someone who has made a living off of fighting...

This is just a high school wrestler effin up a 34 yr old guy who probably outweighs him by 120 pounds...

Experience and speed matter a lot.

Another example of fighting being as much mental as it is physical. These two didn't come to full blows but the other kid who had the 100 pound weight advantage was taken aback by the aggression displayed by the smaller younger looking kid... Sometimes that's all it takes especially if the bigger person hasn't been in a lot of fights. Their natural instincts for self preservation will dominate the first few fights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdu5MAmqV5g

Big difference between a fat bully and a trained athlete. I'll put it differently. Who would win a fight, Abner Mares 5'4.5" flyweight boxer, or an NFL free safety (6-2, 200# is a typical NFL free safety). I would take the free safety any day of the week, and it wouldn't be close. If you watch the video of McGregor vs. the strong man, there were about two instances where the strong man could have broken McGregor's neck / back. It would not be close.

joedirt wrote:

Big difference between a fat bully and a trained athlete. I'll put it differently. Who would win a fight, Abner Mares 5'4.5" flyweight boxer, or an NFL free safety (6-2, 200# is a typical NFL free safety). I would take the free safety any day of the week, and it wouldn't be close. If you watch the video of McGregor vs. the strong man, there were about two instances where the strong man could have broken McGregor's neck / back. It would not be close.

you miss the point...size cannot outmatch experience. At some point the free safety is going to get gassed out which will make him an an even easier victim for the professional boxer. They have the condition and the experience to make a fight go on for a very long time.

If the free safety goes in for a grab which he most likely would, the experienced boxer would quickly step out of his way before he cna complete the movement and take pop shots and repeat this until he wears the bigger guy down enough to go full explosive on him.

Sailor Mike wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

You clearly never played football. All the fighting "disciplines" are specialized, limited mobility scenarios and translate poorly to the real world. But football translates perfectly.

Yes, this is why pro football players who haven’t put in years of boxing training always get clobbered when they hop into a boxing ring. Always. A pro mma fighter would easily destroy one of the football player’s knees before the ‘fight’ could get underway. Pro fighters are PRO FIGHTERS and will knock the tar out big lug football players.

OP is not talking about a boxing ring. PRO FIGHTERS can't even catch a football player. Even the linemen can run. And no PRO FIGHTER has ever trained to hit, take down or choke out someone moving 10mph or faster. None of their "martial arts" bother with the decisive military factor of mobility.

Even a casual football player who has learned to tackle can tackle anybody, including wrestlers, unless they also played football and learned to break tackles. Not likely with a small boxer. In a real-life, urban setting, simply being tackled onto pavement or bricks can easily result in a fight-ending injury.

Naturally most of the scrawny distance types who post here want the boxer to win, so they'll argue to the end for their great scrawny hope. But their hopes are misplaced. The best chance for the scrawny to fight well above their weight is tackling ability.

Suppose you weigh 125pounds and you slam into someone who weighs 200 pounds at 15mph. Slow enough to maneuver, fast enough that the 200 pounder will not long evade if they even try to. Unless they know how to break a tackle, the inelastic collision results in you both moving

125 x 15/(125 + 200)= 5.67mph

in the direction you were running. This is too fast to keep their center of mass over their feet moving backwards or sideways, so they will fall over.

Ah, yes. That age old question: Who would win in a fight, a professional fighter or some other guy?

Fighting is a skill. No one would ask who would win a tennis match, a 5’6” professional tennis player or a 6’3” guy who just picked up a racquet. Any decently trained amateur boxer would destroy any regular athletic guy unless they got incredibly unlucky.

joedirt wrote:

Big difference between a fat bully and a trained athlete. I'll put it differently. Who would win a fight, Abner Mares 5'4.5" flyweight boxer, or an NFL free safety (6-2, 200# is a typical NFL free safety). I would take the free safety any day of the week, and it wouldn't be close. If you watch the video of McGregor vs. the strong man, there were about two instances where the strong man could have broken McGregor's neck / back. It would not be close.

McGregor was play fighting with the big guy. They were deliberately getting into fun little grappling matches.

McGregor never tried to just spark him in the face and break his nose or jaw.

Also a good boxer is many times better/faster/more accurate than McGregor at boxing, as was shown recently.

Put Mayweather in the ring with that strongman for a real fight and he'd land more punches on the guys jaw/nose/eyes in 20 seconds than you can imagine.

They tested Ricky Hatton (welterweight so under 150lbs).

He produced punches of around 900lbs of force. Ten times the average punch of an untrained person. I don't care how heavy you are, 900lbs will break your face.

He was also hitting the bag at speeds ranging from 25-32mph on contact which means you would have about 0.1 seconds (pro sprinter reaction times) to react from when he decides to hit you and when your nose explodes.

The mental strength of the professional will make a huge difference. He knows what the flood of adrenaline feels like and he knows how to take a punch. For the parents out there, remember the first time your baby accidentally head butted you on the chin or bridge of the nose? It hurts like hell, doesn’t it? And that was a baby.

A pro has been hit countless times and he knows how to react and keep focused. Most people begin to shutdown when they cop a hit to the head. That ringing in your ears is a real and you feel like you’re underwater.

And a body shot is no fun either. A pro (regardless of size), could stop a big guy without even resorting to a head shot.

I was a reasonable kick boxer when I was younger and I still remember the sting of shame the first time I was hit hard. I literally wanted to cry for my mother. Most untrained dudes would do just that.

I was a trained boxer, martial arts guy in the 80's. I was about 140 lbs. A guy about 250 lbs started stuff with me, and when we fought, no matter what I did, he was just too solid, and too heavy. So, in the end, I got some great shots in, but he just was not effected enough to keep him at bay and when he got his hands on me it was over.

The gulf between "trained" and "professional" is ENORMOUS.

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200lbs wrote:

200lber would crush even a pro 125lb boxer.

125lber just doesn’t have enough power.

The boxer would have a chance in a boxing match, but not in a street fight.

He'd have more than enough speed and technique and hit hard enough to bust their nose. 99% of people would have had enough at this point.

200pund 6’2” Guy would win. I get it that you guys think these little guys would have a chance. Bottom line is they wouldn’t. Not enough power to do much damage.

In a boxing match, the 125# boxer would probably outpoint the 200#.

In a streetlight, the smaller guy has no chance.

markschultz40 wrote:

OP clearly stated untrained big athletic gy, so an MMA fighter clearly doesn't count. Can you read????

I was referring to the fighter being an MMA fighter vs being strictly a boxer. I guess that was lost on the functional illiterates of LRC. Keep trying though. Maybe someday that learning disability will go away.

Just watching the video of the little wrestler and the big guy above tells you everything you need to know. That wrestler pounded the big guy in the face a dozen times and the dude just stood up. A 125 LBS fighter wouldn't do any damage to a 200 LBS athlete. Sure maybe he's beat up some 200 LBS fatty from your office, but not an athlete. A 200 LBS football player would toss them around like a rag doll. You think a free safety is going to be going to be intimated by some tiny boxer like the fat guy in the classroom?

For what it's worth my son wrestled and played football. One of his buddies was a tiny guy, he weighed 115 pounds. Great wrestler he went on to wrestle in college. This kid would regularly wrestle the 200 plus pound football players, kind of a sparring way but it would get serious because that is how teenagers are. Anyway, this 115 pound kid was impossible for the other kids to beat. These kids were twice his size like 200-230 football players. The little guy had speed and moves and the big guys would end up exhausted or in some kind of hold that would force them to tap out. I saw it with my own eyes.

Also, Bruce Lee weighed 128 pounds. For those who dont know who he is google him.