Back in the day, I was at a party when a Penn State All-Conference defensive end (260+) started mouthing off to a backup 119lb. wrestler. The wrestler and football player were exchanging words that lead to a pushing match. In a split second the wrestler had a choke hold on the football player. The football player was going to the ground before his buddies came to pull the wrestler of of him.
I can see a 125 pound boxer destroying a 200 pound guy easily.
No one has mentioned the fact that the 5'4" guy would have to seriously reach to even hit the 6'2" guy. Don't you lose power when having to punch upwards too?
Based on my experience as a BJJ guy cross training Muay Thai (decent strikers, but not pro boxer level). Tiny guys who are quick and good strikers could probably wreck a bigger, athletic untrained assailant. Speed kills, it's true.
The 125 pound boxer would get stomped. It would be like slapping a mosquito. Eventually the big guy would make contact and it would be game over.
Most of you have no clue what you are talking about. The boxer would destroy him in seconds. I don't think you guys have any concept as to how hard a professional boxer hits. I weight about 180 pounds, am athletic and have been in plenty of fights. I would be terrified to square up with a 105lb strawweight as there is no doubt I would end up in the hospital.
The boxer would kick his teeth in before the other guy could blink an eye. In a tight space he would stand a better chance, but I'd put my money on the boxer in any scenario. Some people are severely underestimating the abilities of a trained fighter.
There are probably 90 pound 11/12 old kids who could beat most posters here.
My uncle was a boxer and he went to jail for killing a man. Punched him once in the head out of anger when he caught him screwing his wife. One punch kill.
For the little guy to hit the big guy, he must get close...
Close enough for the big guy to easily grab him...'See it all the time on UFC...,
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Corsicana Pete wrote:
experience? How large of a guy who is un-trained need to be to defeat a smaller professional boxer with just brute strength?
An ordinary guy (no matter how big he is) would not stand a change against a professional boxer. Even a 125 lbs boxer would still produce punches that could knock out a heavy weight if hit precisely. An ordinary guy would not be able to defend even a basic punch.
Your honestly calling the sumo wrestler athletic? A 6-2 200# who is athletic should be able to throw a punch and move pretty well. Most professional 125# boxers have a hard time dropping other 125# boxers (even with a direct shot). He wouldn't be able to drop a 200# guy. And yes PSU, there is a big difference between trying to drop a guy with a punch and climbing on a drunk guy and choking him out.
There was a viral video several years back of lightweight UFC fighter getting into a street fight with a massive black dude. It's over in less than 10 seconds with the little UFC fighter stomping on the big black guy's head. But it turned out that the black guy wasn't just an average big black guy - he was a professional football player.
The original question is as stupid as asking 'could a 5 foot 4 125 pound world class power lifter lift as much as weight as some naturally big 200 pound guy who has never lifted weights in his life?' Or - 'could Seb Coe at 55 beat a skinny 20 year old who has never run before in his life, in a Mile race?'
Joedirt, are you big enough (lbs) to test out your statement? I can arrange a test with 120lb fighter and see if you can stay up right longer than 15 seconds. Are you game?
If they are boxing, I'd always go with a boxer over a guy who is simply big. However, in a street fight/MMA, a big edge goes to the big guy.....in a street fight I think Muhammad Ali would've gotten his ass kicked, whereas someone like Joe Frazier or Mike Tyson would do much better.
joedirt wrote:
Your honestly calling the sumo wrestler athletic? A 6-2 200# who is athletic should be able to throw a punch and move pretty well. Most professional 125# boxers have a hard time dropping other 125# boxers (even with a direct shot). He wouldn't be able to drop a 200# guy. And yes PSU, there is a big difference between trying to drop a guy with a punch and climbing on a drunk guy and choking him out.
You are really making yourself sound foolish.
You could, but I'm not untrained, and it wouldn't end well for them. 75# is too much weight to overcome.
No contest.
The 125 pro boxer guy probably hits harder than an athletic 200lb dude. Most average big guys can't box for shlt, they telegraph their punches trying to leverage that weight which makes them slower and weaker. A pro 125lb boxer who is used to fighting other 125lb wasp like pros would see those punches coming long before the punch arrives and would step inside and eat them for breakfast.
I have some minor boxing training from my teens. Trained for 3 years and I can dance around my friends when joking around even though I'm not sharp anymore. If I'm fighting a big guy in the street, I'm not even going to take a chance on my power dropping him on the chin. I'm aiming for a one shot to the liver while he inevitably overextends on his telegraphed weak haymaker. I'm nowhere near pro level but would fancy my chances against any untrained fighter bar a lucky punch.
Your average guy
Can't punch with power
Isn't accurate
Telegraphs everything
Gases quickly
Leaves themselves wide open
Can't take a body shot no matter how big they are
I think you should reread what you just wrote.
Like saying Geb would probably lose if somebody challenged him to an 800. Does he train for it? Not exactly, but close enough to clean up on anybody except a pro specialist.