HSer Josh Hoey runs 1:47.67 for the National Record

Fred Gwynne wrote:

I agree he should have run states but I don’t think he took anyone’s place. To qualify for states you just have to run a certain time. At least that was the way it use to be.

That has not been true for a few years. The time standard is a guideline and they only accept the X top declared times so he did cause some kid to not make it. This is due to the limited space and time frame available for the meet. They sometimes let in one or two more so it is possible he told ptfca he was thinking of scratching but it looks like that was not the case as the mile had 18 (instead of 20) and the 800 had 22 (instead of 24). People will scratch due to injury or illness but he had to know about Boston.

I guess when you do what is best for you all the time it could be why you transfer every year. 3 schools in 4 years. Same for the older brother. One year at Penn State then transferred. I’m sure if some coach doesn’t agree with the parents they move on.

Fred Gwynne wrote:

I agree he should have run states but I don’t think he took anyone’s place. To qualify for states you just have to run a certain time. At least that was the way it use to be.

Well actually PA uses a descending order list, so, for what it's worth, he actually used up a spot and it would have gone to a senior. Is that his problem? No. Should the state association suspend that school for a year. Probably. As far as the people complaining about him not competing for his team, the family is in it for the Team Hoey. They all change schools like kids change phone covers. The coach doesn't care. He admittedly steals established transfers from local Downingtown West and Coatesville. Hired mercenaries is unfortunately a growing part of HS sports. Is what it is.

PrZ wrote:

ScottEvil wrote:

My impression is that indoors favors certain runners over others (i.e. Andrew Wheating had trouble with the tight turns because he's tall) and so the indoor/outdoor equivalence is hard to gauge. So it is hard to say whether this means we should favor Josh to break the outdoor HS record. (In general, 'no' is the safer bet for breaking records -- Robby Andrew, for instance, didn't do it.)

Great time though, good luck with the rest of your season Josh if you're reading this!

True, Robby didn’t get the outdoor record but he ran a second faster outdoors than he ran indoors for his record. If Hoey replicates that, he’ll run 1:46 this spring and possibly get the record. I’d love to see how close to 4 he could run too, the kid absolutely slaughtered the field at Millrose.

Don't wish him the record. The record did not really help the current outdoor HS record holder.

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

I want to know why a thread over this kid breaking the indoor 800m record by 1.6 seconds has more speculation post over why he has changed schools than over what he did?

How would we speculate over what he did? He ran 1:47.67, what more do you need to know about it?

Fan Base wrote:

As a fan of the sport for decades, this is the first distance record set by a high school athlete that I haven't been able to see run on video beforehand. Thanks, Floblock.

I have re-read what you wrote several times and I don't get it. How would you have been able to it run on video beforehand? Before what exactly?

The Overexplainer wrote:

How would you have been able to it run on video beforehand? Before what exactly?

WTAF. Back away from the pipe bruh

What will they try next? wrote:

Samuel DeChamplain wrote:

I want to know why a thread over this kid breaking the indoor 800m record by 1.6 seconds has more speculation post over why he has changed schools than over what he did?

How would we speculate over what he did? He ran 1:47.67, what more do you need to know about it?

I don't think you know how to read very well

Fred Gwynne wrote:

I guess when you do what is best for you all the time it could be why you transfer every year. 3 schools in 4 years. Same for the older brother. One year at Penn State then transferred. I’m sure if some coach doesn’t agree with the parents they move on.

I hope that's not true.

Please know that kids do change schools for valid reasons unrelated to athletics.

TrackCoach wrote:

Please know that kids do change schools for valid reasons unrelated to athletics.

Please know that this is not one of those situations.