Nick Hutton, Aaron Bartnik, Antonio vega, goaner deng, mitch hetschl, Pieter Gagnon, mike torchia, derek wiebke,nate roese
Nick Hutton, Aaron Bartnik, Antonio vega, goaner deng, mitch hetschl, Pieter Gagnon, mike torchia, derek wiebke,nate roese
these guys seemed pretty good also wrote:
Nick Hutton, Aaron Bartnik, Antonio vega, goaner deng, mitch hetschl, Pieter Gagnon, mike torchia, derek wiebke,nate roese
A lot of these guys should have been much faster than they ended up.
What would you expect a 9:00 3200m kid to run after 4 years of D1 training and competition? Especially kids that ran something like 35-45 mpw in HS. They recruit a handful of these every year and then somehow reverse their progression.
It's amazing how UofM consistently takes undertrained 17 year olds running 4:10 1600m/9:00 3200m and four years later they are running slower. There's obviously something very wrong here.
For people that are familiar with the caliber athletes that sign for UofM the failure to produce is unfathomable. Kids who didn't have a chance getting signed for UofM go out of state and run much faster than the guys were beating them easily a year earlier.
these guys seemed pretty good also wrote:
Nick Hutton, Aaron Bartnik, Antonio vega, goaner deng, mitch hetschl, Pieter Gagnon, mike torchia, derek wiebke,nate roese
Bartnik was injured for how long? Also chose to retire before the end of his eligibility...
Torchia almost transferred and from what I heard, did not adhere to the training too closely in his last years. Don't think he's a great example.
How did Gagnons career finish? Burnt out, didn't use the rest of his eligibility.
Mitch hechsel, Nate roese, goaner Deng, all trained under Thornton.
Don't know much about Vega, Hutton ran pretty solid but also had a rough end to his senior year (despite prs that year).
So I'm not sure what your point is with these examples.
Also please understand, all these guys are great individuals with tons of work ethic and for the vast majority, great attitudes. If their careers didn't end well for this many promising athletes, I don't think it was coincidental.
GuckTheFophers wrote:
Here's a fun story for y'all. Two years ago, Plasencia lets his own kid on the team. I know Alex and he's a good guy, but he is MUCH slower than any other recruit they've had in recent history. Usually you have to be a top 5 guy in the state to get a look from Plas, where Alex was outside of the top 60!! yes, 60!! in cross his senior year.
77th at the state meet
I now live in Minneapolis. As for the campus, it is in the middle of a metropolitan area and has to compete with many pro teams whereas many of the other Big 10 schools are the only show in town which isn't positive or negative but is the reality of the situation. However, in spite of where it is located I have found Minneapolis to be one of the better running cities I've lived in, there is a great network of bike/pedestrian paths with quite a bit of single track around if you pay attention (theodore wirth, chain of lakes, E & W River Roads, etc.) the one knock would be the winter weather but Minneapolis and St. Paul both do better job keeping their bike paths clean than their roads, there were only a few days this winter that I threw in the towel because of cold or ice. If you were attending the U of M there would be options to train other places on these rough days.
I went to the U of M for a little whilebut didn't graduate. the out of state tuition was too expensive
Isn't the Lake District three or four miles away from the Campus?
I remember running a little towards St Anthony's Falls from campus but it's all roads.
I think one thing I was always impressed by the state was that it was the most active state in the country even with the winter. People there really value exercise.
Also worth noting: I did interview the coach in 2004 for the school newspaper. He seemed friendly. Not sure if it was the same guy
ejalksldu wrote:
Love Minnesota, but ... wrote:
For those of you who went there, I DO KNOW that it is an outstanding University and has a lot to offer and I think Minneapolis and Minnesota in general is wonderful, but is the campus a nice environment? I did not see many wide-open or green or unpaved places to run for example? I did think the extreme cliffs and the hills climbing right out of the Mississippi River was cool and something I don't think any other big midwest U has.
But are there golf courses or dirt or natural areas near the U to train on? Like I said, I did not investigate enough to get the whole story, but from what I saw it looked more urban and bleak than I imagined and less "natural area" than say Ann ARbor or East Lansing or its closer cousin Madison.
A few things, I graduated high school in the mid 2000s and really wanted to go to the U, they were actively recruiting two athletes who finished ahead of me at state cross and 5 that finished behind me. I had to practically beg to get a visit even though I lived within driving distance of campus. Lets just say that after my visit with Plaz, I had no desire to go there anymore. He had an attitude that I was wasting his time, really didn't have a chance at making the roster, and told me that I shouldn't do a challenging major because I wouldn't be able to handle the workload in addition to what he expects out of his athletes. After the visit I didn't hear from them until after state track where they decided to offer me a scholarship, but I decided to go to a school that actually wanted me there.
I'm not saying that I was a world beater but I would have scored points for them and made top 7 in CC, it just really rubbed me the wrong way how dismissive he was of me...on second thought maybe he is the reason I ran well because I spitefully just wanted to pick off as many U of M runners as I could whenever I raced against them.
I now live in Minneapolis. As for the campus, it is in the middle of a metropolitan area and has to compete with many pro teams whereas many of the other Big 10 schools are the only show in town which isn't positive or negative but is the reality of the situation. However, in spite of where it is located I have found Minneapolis to be one of the better running cities I've lived in, there is a great network of bike/pedestrian paths with quite a bit of single track around if you pay attention (theodore wirth, chain of lakes, E & W River Roads, etc.) the one knock would be the winter weather but Minneapolis and St. Paul both do better job keeping their bike paths clean than their roads, there were only a few days this winter that I threw in the towel because of cold or ice. If you were attending the U of M there would be options to train other places on these rough days.
These guys seemed pretty good.... wrote:
Trent Riter, Romborugh, Harun Abda, Andrew Carlson, John Simons, Martin Robeck, David Pachuta, Travis Burkstrand......
these guys seemed pretty good also wrote:
Nick Hutton, Aaron Bartnik, Antonio vega, goaner deng, mitch hetschl, Pieter Gagnon, mike torchia, derek wiebke,nate roese
Can’t forget Obsa Ali the 2018 NCAA 3000m steeplechase champ
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year