Can Coleman get Bolts 9.58?

Star wrote:

Bolt was 0.08s ahead of the entire field at 60m.

So most of his damage was done then but he still widened it from there. ...

Against one of the fastest fields ever. People saying he had a bad start didn't watch him run back then. He was in front at 30m.

Star wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Ok anyone who has watched Bolt race even once understands that he is remarkable not in the first 60m but from 50m to the finish.

That is where his top end speed blows everyone else away and it's where Coleman would need to SIGNIFICANTLY improve

So you're saying that in order to run faster he would need to improve.

I disagree.

I think he can run significantly faster without significantly improving.

No that's not what I said at all.

I said to challenge Bolt's records he will need to develop and hold top end speed that tears apart the field from 50m to 100m.

Not a great 60m.

If you think he could run 9.5 right now based on that 60m alone you are crazy.

Countless people have pointed out Bolt ran 6.31 en route and he wasn't even that far ahead at 60m. He did the damage over the last 40-50m.

longjack wrote:

note that bolt hit 60m in 6.31 seconds in his WR.

coleman can probably duplicate that.

of course, he's going to need to match bolt the rest of the way, which seems impossible, but it is not a matter of height, it is a matter of speed endurance,

can coleman manintain?

probably not.

but what if coleman goes 6.25 for the 60, ???

then it's game on.

Even if he goes 6.20 he will not get Bolt’s record. He does not and will never have the speed endurance necessary for that record. He can maybe go high 9.6 but he will never go sub 9.65. He doesn’t have the mechanics or body to.

I’m not saying Bolt’s record is untouchable forever, but it is untouchable for Coleman.

I’ve seen Coleman in person multiple times and I’ve never seen anyone start anything like him. It’s amazing and he may turn into one of the greatest but he won’t touch 9.58.

He can not match Bolt’s top speed due to his height. To make up for the shorter stride length it would not be possible for someone who is 5’9” to have the stride frequency to match Bolt.

Bolt’s weakness was his reaction start time which is one of the worst amongst modern championship sprinters but he was able to hold his top speed longer than most and his top speed was incredible.

Bottom line is I really do not believe that anyone under 5-10 can break 9.6. I do think it can be broken just not by anyone competing out there right now.

otter wrote:

He can not match Bolt’s top speed due to his height. To make up for the shorter stride length it would not be possible for someone who is 5’9” to have the stride frequency to match Bolt.

Bolt’s weakness was his reaction start time which is one of the worst amongst modern championship sprinters but he was able to hold his top speed longer than most and his top speed was incredible.

Bottom line is I really do not believe that anyone under 5-10 can break 9.6. I do think it can be broken just not by anyone competing out there right now.

I think Blake had the capability in his prime to get very close. He had injury problems for a few years which hampered his chances.

But remember he ran 9.69 into a very slight headwind of -0.1. Give him a nice following wind of +1.5 and he would be in the 9.65 region at least

He ran 19.26 so has supreme speed endurance. I don't see Coleman running 19.26 ever.

Star wrote:

I have to say that running 9.82 at age 21 was pretty good for Coleman (no one has ever run that fast at that age).

Now he is the 60m indoor world record holder and still hasn't turned 22 yet.

He can get 9.58 with the right coach and doctor.

I second this.

That said, I have no idea what you mean by 'doctor'.

Here are thoughts about the record before the record. https://youtu.be/xDtP6Y72AMc

Coleman ran 9.82 last year. Right now I'd say he's 9.7-high shape. I'd think one day he has the possibility of dipping below 9.7.

ezby wrote:

No.

He clearly does NOT have the acceleration. Bolt ran 6.31 in his 100 record.

And no, he clearly does not have the top speed that Bolt does. The best part of Coleman's race is the start. The worst part of Bolt's race is the start. Add another 40m and Coleman is out of the picture compared to '09 Bolt form.

Coleman is a good starter, not great and the race where he set the indoor 60 WR, he only had an average start. Bolt in '08 and '09 was a good starter and had an excellent start when he ran 9.58. I agree, Coleman can't match Bolt's top-end speed and his 60m time does not suggest he can run anywhere near 9.58. What it does suggest for Coleman is a consistent 9.7x, which will probably win all of the races for the foreseeable future. No athlete, 'no clean athlete' is going to touch the 100m WR in our lifetime, on scale, 9.58 is equal to Beamon's LJ record, which lasted for many decades.

Native Son wrote:

Star wrote:

I have to say that running 9.82 at age 21 was pretty good for Coleman (no one has ever run that fast at that age).

Now he is the 60m indoor world record holder and still hasn't turned 22 yet.

He can get 9.58 with the right coach and doctor.

I second this.

That said, I have no idea what you mean by 'doctor'.

Doctor here means the person who supplies the peds to athletes.

However the track at ETSU is oversized...